View Poll Results: What's your opinion of Affirmative Action in the college admissions process?

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Thread: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

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    Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Are you in favor of it or do you disagree with it?

    I think when public schools use this it violates the Civil Rights Act of 1964, more specifically Title II and Title IV and when it comes to private schools I just think it's wrong.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Affirmative action has served it's purpose, and should no longer exist. At this points it hurts race relations more than it helps.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Racial discrimination is still racial discrimination. Why should anyone claiming to not be racist support this?
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Racial discrimination is still racial discrimination. Why should anyone claiming to not be racist support this?
    I don't know, most Democrats support it. I was hoping some supporters would respond.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    I don't know, most Democrats support it. I was hoping some supporters would respond.
    I do not think there is any ground to stand on in supporting it any longer.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    The United States has these things called "libraries", repositories of information that pre-date that other grand repository of information, "the Internet."

    Because of these things, anyone who wants to educate themselves, can.

    Because of these things, anyone who wants to prepare themselves for college, can.

    Because of these things, no one should be admitted to college on the basis of ethnicity. Academic ability is the only measure that matters.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    It's incredibly counter productive when it's based exclusively on race.

    Is Affirmative Action at Law School Actually Hurting Minorities? - Law Blog - WSJ

    The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights yesterday released a report echoing a controversial theory — minority students who gain special admission to better-regarded law schools based on their race end up in academic settings for which they aren’t qualified, leading to lower grades and bar passage rates than if they had been admitted to a school that doesn’t use racial preferences. (Here’s a press release from the commission, today’s NLJ story on the report, and a recent WSJ op-ed by one of the report’s authors.)

    The 220-page report gives momentum to an idea first researched by UCLA law professor Rick Sander, which he laid out in a 2004 law review article.

    Using data on grades and bar-passage rates for black and white law students across the country, Sander found that black and white law students granted admission to a school based on similar credentials earned roughly the same grades and passed the bar at a similar rate. But black law students given preferential treatment over white students — that is, admitted to a school despite lesser qualifications than their white counterparts — had poorer grades and bar-exam results, and higher attrition rates, than whites who attended the same school.

    The explanation? Sander blames racial preferences in admissions, writing that even though affirmative action has led to more black students in law schools, it has actually resulted in a 7.9% drop in the number of black attorneys entering the profession.

    The commission’s report largely picks up Sander’s theme, stating that “admitting students into law schools for which they might not academically be prepared could harm their academic performance and hinder their ability to obtain secure and gainful employment.”
    I believe that a limited form of AA based on things like class, race, background, etc. can serve the purpose of increasing diversity, which is indeed a valuable concern.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    People should be judged on merit and character alone, anything else violates the spirit of civil rights and equality and does a disservice to everyone. It's very simple, the best and brightest rise to the top no matter what.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Why not scrap (retire) affirmative action and have the colleges determine the criteria.
    Keep the governments out of it..

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Why not scrap (retire) affirmative action and have the colleges determine the criteria.
    Keep the governments out of it..
    Because colleges use it as criteria.

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