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Thread: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Great Idea, give a small number of people the power to decide admissions based on nothing but race. Give a small number of people the power to decide who is black and who is white based on nothing but their opinons. Is a person with 1/2 African American blood, black? 1/4,1/8,1/16? Is the tone of the color the deciding factor? If so how dark is considered black? What is latino? Is a white person born In Puerto Rico Latino? Is an African immigrant considered Black? If so, then why do they deserve a special adjustment if they never were victims of slavery?
    Luckily, this isn't even remotely close to how admissions decisions are made.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Luckily, this isn't even remotely close to how admissions decisions are made.
    What do you mean?


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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Presumably, because the black med student has:

    1) Struggled harder than the average white med student, and thus has an equal or superior level of intelligence and ability to succeed if those obstacles had not been there, and
    2) Will improve the medical field as a whole by increasing the number of black doctors, which has an impact on how black patients are treated.
    In the Bakke Decision, the replacement quota-filler was not more qualified, and did indeed wind up killing patients in his socially essential plastic surgery liposuction business in Compton.

    So, not, AA didn't help anyone in that case.

    So you're making imaginary presumptions to justify the existence of a racist quota system.

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    And the institution can do whatever the **** it wants with its money.
    Not when it's taxpayer dollars. Now I know the race baiters, poverty pimps and pretend conservatives all feel that racism against white is the greatest invention since pumpernickel bread, but even though bigoted courts have ruled otherwise, racism still violates the Fourteenth Amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Yea, having a token successful black come in to speak to a bunch of white kids will definitely have the same impact as the white kids living, studying, hanging out, and attending class with other black kids.
    Then why do college flaming libtards always protest any appearance by Ward Connerly?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    This of course assumes that the average person receiving AA simply sat on their ass and did no work to get where they are.
    If they were academically superior, they wouldn't have needed the special hand up from the bigots.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Probably as bad as it feels to be someone who doesn't get the one open job because a company decides against giving them an interview due to a "black" name.
    So you're saying racism is okay, so long as it's not against a brother.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    What do you mean?
    ...that that's not how the decisions are made?
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    In the Bakke Decision, the replacement quota-filler was not more qualified, and did indeed wind up killing patients in his socially essential plastic surgery liposuction business in Compton.

    So, not, AA didn't help anyone in that case.
    Link?

    Not when it's taxpayer dollars. Now I know the race baiters, poverty pimps and pretend conservatives all feel that racism against white is the greatest invention since pumpernickel bread, but even though bigoted courts have ruled otherwise, racism still violates the Fourteenth Amendment.
    And fortunately, AA doesn't.

    Then why do college flaming libtards always protest any appearance by Ward Connerly?
    Because "college flaming libtards" are ****ing morons who freak out whenever anyone espouses a philosophy they disagree with?

    Not sure what you expect me to say here.

    If they were academically superior, they wouldn't have needed the special hand up from the bigots.
    You obviously missed the whole "other obstacles" point of my statement.

    So you're saying racism is okay, so long as it's not against a brother.
    Yea, that's exactly what I'm saying. You sure got me.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    ...that that's not how the decisions are made?
    Really? So how are decisions made?


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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Presumably, because the black med student has:

    1) Struggled harder than the average white med student, and thus has an equal or superior level of intelligence and ability to succeed if those obstacles had not been there, and
    What exactly are the obstacles?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    2) Will improve the medical field as a whole by increasing the number of black doctors, which has an impact on how black patients are treated.
    It's been my experiance that money determines how a patient is treated. Not their skin color.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    And the institution can do whatever the **** it wants with its money.
    If it can do whatever it wants with it's money then why do they HAVE to diversify?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    No, white guys from Greenwich are objectively boring.
    According to you. I would actually be interested to know what a bunch of white guys from Greenwhich would have to say.

    Again what is boring and is not boring is subjective. I like Online games, you like single player games. (note that was just an example. I have no idea what you actually like and don't like.)

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Yea, having a token successful black come in to speak to a bunch of white kids will definitely have the same impact as the white kids living, studying, hanging out, and attending class with other black kids.
    May not be as effective but it would still help. And be alot better than forcing what is in essence a company to take someone that they ordinarily would not take. I notice you didn't comment on my "life learning" comment. Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    This of course assumes that the average person receiving AA simply sat on their ass and did no work to get where they are.
    No it doesn't. They can still work hard, but having something handed to you is still not as good as earning something for yourself. Earning something for yourself not only teaches you how to accomplish something, but it also teaches you self responsibility instead of reliance on someone else to get the job done.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Probably as bad as it feels to be someone who doesn't get the one open job because a company decides against giving them an interview due to a "black" name.
    This assumes racism. You are in effect here saying that two wrongs equal a right. In other words it's bad to deny someone a job because of they are one race, but it is ok to accept someone because of them being another different race. IE a contradiciton. Sorry but you can't have one without contradicting yourself in the face of the other. But you can be against both.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Really? So how are decisions made?
    Contrary to this:

    Great Idea, give a small number of people the power to decide admissions based on nothing but race. Give a small number of people the power to decide who is black and who is white based on nothing but their opinons. Is a person with 1/2 African American blood, black? 1/4,1/8,1/16? Is the tone of the color the deciding factor? If so how dark is considered black? What is latino? Is a white person born In Puerto Rico Latino? Is an African immigrant considered Black? If so, then why do they deserve a special adjustment if they never were victims of slavery?
    applicants self-identify their race.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    applicants self-identify their race.
    Why should a question of what race you are even be on ANY aplication?
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    applicants self-identify their race.
    So if I put African American when I am not, they wont verify this?


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