View Poll Results: What's your opinion of Affirmative Action in the college admissions process?

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by NortheastCynic View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what is a 'professional Black'?

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    Jesse Jackson,,Al sharpton,,,B.O.? ...his "Pastor" for 20 years,,,The Rev. Wright...All professional Racists. That's how they make their living.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    Jesse Jackson,,Al sharpton,,,B.O.? ...his "Pastor" for 20 years,,,The Rev. Wright...All professional Racists. That's how they make their living.
    Ah, I see. Fair enough.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I believe that a limited form of AA based on things like class, race, background, etc. can serve the purpose of increasing diversity, which is indeed a valuable concern.
    Wanting diversity in this case does nothing but hurt another type of person. Useually the race not being accepted in the name of "diversity".

    The ONLY thing that should ever be determined for ANYTHING when it comes to positions in the school or work place is a persons GPA, and skills. Nothing else should matter.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Wanting diversity in this case does nothing but hurt another type of person. Useually the race not being accepted in the name of "diversity".

    The ONLY thing that should ever be determined for ANYTHING when it comes to positions in the school or work place is a persons GPA, and skills. Nothing else should matter.
    True...If, and when I hire a person,,,I base it only the concept that they'll make Money for the Company... If not,,,Good bye.
    Last edited by Realist1; 07-25-09 at 10:30 PM.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    I see Afirmative action as just a soft version of racism.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    I see Afirmative action as just a soft version of racism.
    More along the line of overt black racist policy...as the standard.:
    Last edited by Realist1; 07-25-09 at 10:28 PM.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Wanting diversity in this case does nothing but hurt another type of person. Useually the race not being accepted in the name of "diversity".

    The ONLY thing that should ever be determined for ANYTHING when it comes to positions in the school or work place is a persons GPA, and skills. Nothing else should matter.
    Do you honestly think that the value of an individual to a classroom/educational institution can be completely encapsulated by a number and a resume?

    There are plenty of very good reasons for wanting students with a diversity of views, races, socio-economic statuses, and backgrounds.

    A school composed of 100 rich white conservative guys from Greenwich is going to be a pretty ****ing boring school, as would be a school of 100 poor black liberal women from Bed-Stuy. The students at each of those schools would leave with a diminished ability to see other viewpoints and interact with different types of individuals.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Race is nothing more than a social construct, and I would argue that it is an inherently damaging social construct. Policies which attempt to influence race, measure race, use race as a criteria, or acknowledge race in any fashion at all perpetuate this damaging social construct.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by NortheastCynic View Post
    Hey NYC, I'm back,
    Fair enough, I, like you dislike and disagree with the implementation of over-zealous AA.
    Who gets to decide the limits of zealotry of this racism, the victim or the beneficiary?

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by NortheastCynic View Post
    No, I mean that having a black person in an African American studies class is helpful. Or that having an Indian in a class about the Indian-Pakistani situation is helpful. Or that having an Iraqi in a class about Islam is helpful. Can you truly not see an instance where having different people in the classroom would help?

    (edited for telephone induced grammar/spelling mistakes)

    -NC

    How many blacks need reverse racism to get into a course of study as useless as African American Studies? Answer: None.

    How many colleges don't have their student population of muslims nowadays?

    Damn few.

    How many people wanting to study something as useless as Islam would enroll in a university with no specimens to study? If they're that stupid, then it's their problem, and guess what? It doesn't justify racism.


    Basicly, you can't define your acceptance of racism, and you have to come up with bogus examples.

    A qualified white med-school applicant is passed over for a lesser qualified black applicant (we are now discussing how Affirmative Action really works, not your fantasy land of wonderful loving people). How does a black freshman from an American high school add useful "die-versity" to the medical school experience?

    Correct answer: it doesn't.

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