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Thread: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I believe it a social issue among some minorities. Its not just an economic issue.
    You're right, it's not just an economic issue, but it most certainly is a component of the problem. Poor white kids are in gangs as much as poor black kids and poor hispanic kids and poor asian kids. However, you don't see specifically white gangs like you see with the other groups and I agree that's cultural to a degree, just like the serial single pregnancy that you see among black teenagers.

    Both of these problems can be solved by education, however, but in some of these sub-cultures, education is seen as a bad thing, which is what keeps those born in the ghetto living in the ghetto for generation after generation. If you actually want to better yourself, you're seen as a "race traitor".
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I can understand if you only want AA to have a limited effect on admissions, but you can't have it both ways by promoting diversity AND not basing acceptable intot the school on race.

    Because even if a school has limited amounts of AA, then it is still basing a small amount of the admission proscess on race.

    At the very least, race would need to be one determining factor in admission because I am assuming that by diversity you mean people of different races.
    Actually you can have it both ways. You can promote regular school. Get kids that are statistically more prone to gang life or being dropouts interested in school again. That right there is half the battle.

    We once promoted schooling before and had great success during the Apollo programs. I see no reason why we can't again. Fix the school system would help also.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually you can have it both ways. You can promote regular school. Get kids that are statistically more prone to gang life or being dropouts interested in school again. That right there is half the battle.

    We once promoted schooling before and had great success during the Apollo programs. I see no reason why we can't again. Fix the school system would help also.
    I posted the statement on unemployment to gauge the level of knowledge on those that did reply. And not to my surprise, those who did reply have very little in regards to labor theory, specifically employment.

    Unemployment measures those who are CURRENTLY SEEKING EMPLOYMENT, but for some reason or another, CANNOT! It is not a percentage of the aggregate race. What many have implicitly stated is this: black teenagers are not looking for jobs, demonstrated by the high rates of unemployment.

    And that cannot be any farther from the truth. Those who are in drug gangs have almost nothing to do with unemployment statistics.....
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    The majority of people who benefit from affirmative action getting into colleges are white males.

    The schools have to cut them a lot of slack to keep the colleges 50/50 male female. If all was fair colleges would be about 65% females.
    depends on the school, it works the other way around for engineering programs.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I posted the statement on unemployment to gauge the level of knowledge on those that did reply. And not to my surprise, those who did reply have very little in regards to labor theory, specifically employment.

    Unemployment measures those who are CURRENTLY SEEKING EMPLOYMENT, but for some reason or another, CANNOT! It is not a percentage of the aggregate race. What many have implicitly stated is this: black teenagers are not looking for jobs, demonstrated by the high rates of unemployment.

    And that cannot be any farther from the truth. Those who are in drug gangs have almost nothing to do with unemployment statistics.....
    Actually it's based on the census and those looking for work AFAIK.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually it's based on the census and those looking for work AFAIK.
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment]Unemployment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Regardless, those in drug gangs are most likely not counted as in the workforce. So back to my point.

    Why is it that black teenagers are severely unemployed? (*Hint* those who are not in the labor force have nothing to do with it.)
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Unemployment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Regardless, those in drug gangs are most likely not counted as in the workforce. So back to my point.

    Why is it that black teenagers are severely unemployed? (*Hint* those who are not in the labor force have nothing to do with it.)
    Minimum wage is too high, for one thing.

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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Minimum wage is too high, for one thing.
    LOL, minimum wage creates far less [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadweight_loss"]deadweight loss[/ame], than union wage price floors.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Unemployment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Regardless, those in drug gangs are most likely not counted as in the workforce. So back to my point.

    Why is it that black teenagers are severely unemployed? (*Hint* those who are not in the labor force have nothing to do with it.)
    Wiki? Seriously?

    I am unemployed. Haven't looked for a job in two years as I'm a stay at home dad.

    And why wouldn't those in gangs be considered part of an umemployed workforce? They can work to.

    As to why black teenagers are "severly unemployed" how about you tell us since you already seem to know the answer.

    I feel compelled to remind you that there are far less white gangs than there are colored gangs.
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    Re: Affirmative Action (in college admissions): Good idea or Bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    LOL, minimum wage creates far less deadweight loss, than union wage price floors.
    Again wiki? And it looks like you didn't even apply it right.
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