View Poll Results: Should the state allow people to commit suicide?

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  • Yes, the state should allow people to kill themselves.

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    Re: Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

    If a person is determined to kill themselves, there's really not a damn thing anyone can do to stop it, short of putting them under guard 24/7, with no privacy at all. Do I think that someone who unsuccessfully attempts to take their own life should be forced into treatment? Yes, I do. I see no reason to give up on someone because they happen to be in a bad place mentally/emotionally. With treatment, most can be helped. Circumstances can change, and with that, one's outlook on life can improve or even reverse completely. More difficult for me is the issue of assisted suicide for those that modern medicine can't help. There's no denying the potential for abuse in such a case. A person may feel guilty because they perceive themselves as being a "burden" on their loved ones, and feel pressured to end their lives when they don't really want to. If I knew someone who was planning to take their life, I would do everything in my power to prevent it.

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    Re: Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

    I like the wording, ‘the state allows us to do something.’
    State: You are allowed to make your own decisions as long as you follow our fixed state guidelines.
    The individual as the right to end their own life, the state should not be in the practice of allowing individual choices when it comes to their own life; it’s not in their function to allow such things.
    Well, it should not be.
    Of course, the state thinks they are the master and we are the slave.
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    Re: Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    I like the wording, ‘the state allows us to do something.’
    State: You are allowed to make your own decisions as long as you follow our fixed state guidelines.
    The individual as the right to end their own life, the state should not be in the practice of allowing individual choices when it comes to their own life; it’s not in their function to allow such things.
    Well, it should not be.
    Of course, the state thinks they are the master and we are the slave.
    The state has no thoughts, we the people rule the state.
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    Re: Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    The state has no thoughts, we the people rule the state.
    Now if only that were true.


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    Re: Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

    You can't stop someone from committing suicide, it's ridiculous to try. The funny thing is, we only punish those who FAIL, the ones who succeed get off scott-free.
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    Re: Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

    The question is very complex and I don't believe there is a one-size-fits-all answer. Some people with an incredibly high degree of intelligence have thought about their existence long and hard enough that they know its termination is the right thing to do; others want to end it because of prolonged suffering which could be ended with some simple intervention; still further, others end it prevent their families from enduring the shame of their actions (like in Asia).

    Suicide is mostly illegal so that interventionism has a chance to play a role. Obviously if the person is successful then it doesn't matter, but if they aren't, then it means the full extent of helpful resources will be obligated to come to their aid in order to assess the situation.

    I personally don't have much faith in modern psychiatry, especially in terms of its medicative tendencies, but even so, there are many skilled professionals who can help a person get out of their rut.

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    Re: Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Now if only that were true.
    But it is.
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    Re: Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    In response to the conversation in the Law and Order forum;
    Do you believe that the state should allow people to kill themselves if they wish to?

    And another question, if one of your closest friends was about to commit suicide, would you stop him/her from doing so?
    Be allowed to commit suicide? Who is anyone to allow or prevent me from ending my life?
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    Re: Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    But it is.
    The government no longer represents the people. If this were the case the bailouts would not have happened under Bush and Obama and a long list that continues to grow.

    So no, it is not true anymore.

    The state is now a small group of individuals who are trying to consolidate wealth and power at the expense of the common man. The common man has little voice anymore. "The people" have been effectively blind folded and pushed aside.
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    Re: Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Be allowed to commit suicide? Who is anyone to allow or prevent me from ending my life?
    Who is anyone is a good question.
    I'd bet that it wouldn't be just anyone.
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