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Thread: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

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    Re: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    She has a couple of (fairly common) pre-existing conditions and takes a handful of meds. I'm sure that plans exist that are cheaper than what was available to her, but in order to get adequate coverage it cost her a pretty penny
    Well, as I said -- I did a lot of looking and found a lot of plans. Even old people would be able to find coverage.

    Many people on those plans are those who get flat out denied for private coverage or for whom private coverage is too expensive. If they were to be thrown into the free market they would not have access to medical care
    As noted, and as found in The Obama plan, this plan will cover 98-99% of the people. As there is an accepted 1-2% lack of coverage in both plans, that the plan will not cover 100% isnt an argument against it any more than it is for The Obama's plan.

    Yes, and without reform I don't think it's possible to get everyone covered. If you take a middle aged smoker with AIDs, give him two grand and tell him to go find private coverage he will come up wanting.
    See above.

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    Re: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Well, as I said -- I did a lot of looking and found a lot of plans. Even old people would be able to find coverage.
    She found a plan, just not for $200/month, in our area, that would accept her, and that would give her access to the care and meds she needs.

    As noted, and as found in The Obama plan, this plan will cover 98-99% of the people. As there is an accepted 1-2% lack of coverage in both plans, that the plan will not cover 100% isnt an argument against it any more than it is for The Obama's plan.


    See above.
    I am not arguing in favor of the Obama plan. You put forth a plan, and I told you what I see as its weaknesses.

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    Re: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    I am not arguing in favor of the Obama plan. You put forth a plan, and I told you what I see as its weaknesses.
    Yes... and a small number of people not fully-covered is an accepted reality.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 07-23-09 at 12:23 PM.

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    Re: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

    Do you have any evidence to support the assertion that 98% of Americans would be able to find private insurance coverage with $2275/year?

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    Re: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Do you have any evidence to support the assertion that 98% of Americans would be able to find private insurance coverage with $2275/year?
    Sure. You can do the same thing I did -- search the internet.
    Health Insurance, Medical Insurance, Individual Health Insurance Quotes

    Obviously, I did not search for every conceiveable demographic, but the many that I did all turned up coverage that fit.

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    Re: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Sure. You can do the same thing I did -- search the internet.
    Health Insurance, Medical Insurance, Individual Health Insurance Quotes

    Obviously, I did not search for every conceiveable demographic, but the many that I did all turned up coverage that fit.
    You just linked me to a health insurace website's front page. How does that support the assertion that 98% of Americans can find private health insurance on $2275?

    Did you make the 98% figure up? If not, where did it come from?

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    Re: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

    Our Federal Government has been unfairly knocked on their ability to economically dispense medical care... But, is there any real proof of this ?
    IMO, its not bad at all at the VA..there could be improvements, of course...I do see too much "make work"...which is not necessarily a bad thing.
    IMO, most medical care should be on a pay as you go basis, at least bypassing insurance 90%....or more.
    People, doctors, hospitals mis-use, and abuse insurance
    The medical practice does need to modernize.
    A great many patients can do their own blood pressure, weight,ect....give the nurses more training, more responsibility.
    Maybe, the VA could serve as a model for health care in the 21st century...

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    Re: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    You just linked me to a health insurace website's front page.
    Yes.
    As I said:
    You can do the same thing I did -- search the internet for rates.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 07-23-09 at 12:38 PM.

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    Re: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

    Did you make the 98% figure up? If not, where did it come from?

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    Re: Question for liberals re: Federal Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Did you make the 98% figure up? If not, where did it come from?
    I'm sorry -- I told you what I did.
    You dont have to like iit, but if you do the same thing I did, I'll bet you'll come up with the same numbers.

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