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Is the swear word filter really neccessary here?

Swear world filter neccessary?

  • No, it should be removed

    Votes: 19 55.9%

  • Yes, it should stay

    Votes: 12 35.3%

  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 3 8.8%
  • Total voters
    34
kaya'08

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Is the swear word filter really neccessary on this forum? If the majority of us are so for "free speech", why can we not use swear words in our post? Its not neccessarily for insults and hell, if it is, and mods have a problem with that, they can use the ordinary approach. I think considering this forum is full of adults (adults because we here are all mature enough and old enough to know what swearing is and use it - and debate politics), i dont see why it should be filtered out by the forum.

Whats your thoughts guys?
 
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I wish the filter was optional.
 
I agree. I'm not offended by words and those that are would be able to turn the filter on. Don't know that the site has that capability though.
 
disneydude said:
I agree. I'm not offended by words and those that are would be able to turn the filter on. Don't know that the site has that capability though.
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I used to have a vBulletin forum like this one. Unless you can do some programming on the side which i am not too sure about, then as it stands it isnt possible.
 
I have no problem with the ****ing filter.

And I'm pretty sure everyone knows what those asterisks represent anyway.
 
I'm fine with the filter as it is. I feel it's necessary for folks who don't want to subjected to having to read through posts that sometimes consist of more swear words than relevant content.
 
I also have no problem with the swear filter. I gave it a little thought. You are allowed to swear if you need to and that comes up with asterics. It does however also remind you that you are swearing and so on a forum where thought might be appreciated and swearing frequently is done without thought can also be seen to ask for more thought.

I can even imagine pages and pages of swear words developing!!!

So yes we are adults but adults swear hopefully more than children so I have no problem with the filter.
 
I have no problem with swear words. I see no difference between using a swear word and regular words with the same context.For example if I call you **** for brains and someone else calls you dung for brains,shouldn't both be considered bad? If they mean the same thing then why should one be acceptable and not the other? Should someone who has been called a jerk feel less offended than someone who has been called a asshole?
 
Most people say they have no problem with the filter, yet when, and easily the majority of people here, swear on this forum they make a point of using the underline or bold BB Code so it doesnt asterix out.
 
Profanity doesn't bother me, but it seems to bother others, so I'm fine with the filter. I'm just glad we can circumvent it in the basement. That way, the pansies don't have to be offended.
 
kaya'08 said:
Most people say they have no problem with the filter, yet when, and easily the majority of people here, swear on this forum they make a point of using the underline or bold BB Code so it doesnt asterix out.
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The mods do not like us bypassing the curse filter.
 
I'll give you the view on it I have...

First and foremost, we have numerous folks that read the forums while at a work place and a coworker possibly seeing something laden with **** and **** all throughout it can possibly get them in a bit of an issue. Its sort of the same thing with not allowing porn or other explicite pictures up on the forum.

Second, in general I believe that the censoring of the words decrease their use in debate. (its just not as fun when all you see is ****) So it kind of discourages gratuitous use of the words. While some are not really bothered by it, some find it brings down the level of maturity in a debate.

Third, unlike some of the other words that have been removed from the filter, in general these rarely come up as a center piece or correlary to a political discussion and/or are not considered light.

Overall, I'd not have a huge issue with the swear filter going away completely, but I don't have a huge issue with it in its currently stripped down version. My issue was much more from a year or so ago when there were a plethora of words that were banned, some of which were light and others inconsistant (some slurs blocked, others now) and people were routinely trying to bypass the censor even on words that weren't blocked by the censor.

Having just the three big ones now and all forms of those being blocked I think is a good compromise position personally.
 
kaya'08 said:
Most people say they have no problem with the filter, yet when, and easily the majority of people here, swear on this forum they make a point of using the underline or bold BB Code so it doesnt asterix out.
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^---- Actually this, anywhere besides the basement, is a violation of the rules.

My thoughts as to why people willfully bypass it in the basement is because:

1. Its clearly stated you're goign there at your own risk.
2. The crude, rude, comedic nature of the basement gives itself over to gratuitous cursing.
 
kaya'08 said:
Most people say they have no problem with the filter, yet when, and easily the majority of people here, swear on this forum they make a point of using the underline or bold BB Code so it doesnt asterix out.
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I rarely see that done....and it is a rule violation.
 
I really don't see the point in having the word filter at all, and find it annoying when I write a post and have it posted just to see some words turn to asterisks. I use swears in casual discussion on a semi-regular basis, and it's annoying to have it made such a big deal about when it really isn't.

Then again I'm also against it for the very obvious reason that the entire concept of "bad words" is incredibly stupid and misleading as to what words actually are and what their purpose serves. For example, if I were to call someone a ****head it's not nearly as bad as saying that I hope that they get raped.

And besides, we have rules here about flaming for a reason, so any use in that context can be easily enforced without the filter, which makes the filter doubly useless.
 
ARealConservative said:
I rarely see that done....and it is a rule violation.
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Zyphlin said:
^---- Actually this, anywhere besides the basement, is a violation of the rules.

My thoughts as to why people willfully bypass it in the basement is because:

1. Its clearly stated you're goign there at your own risk.
2. The crude, rude, comedic nature of the basement gives itself over to gratuitous cursing.
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I know it is. But lots of people do do it at some stage, im not going to lie and say i havent myself. I just dont see the point in it if its so easy to get around. May aswell lift the violation.
 
kaya'08 said:
I know it is. But lots of people do do it at some stage, im not going to lie and say i havent myself. I just dont see the point in it if its so easy to get around. May aswell lift the violation.
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people break every rule, and they are extremely easy to break...so why have any rules at all?
 
ARealConservative said:
people break every rule, and they are extremely easy to break...so why have any rules at all?
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Of course one can twist this to be a position that could be favorable towards anarchy, but this is different than supporting removal of other/all rules. :roll:

Swear filters by nature are very tempermental, and non-"swear" words often fall victim due to the fact that they have a swear word in them somewhere. I've been at one forum where "assume" was partially censored.

I think there should be at least a very lax filter, I'm also liking the idea of optional filtering. This isn't Digg or Youtube though, the kinds of idiots that often plague those places (and fill page after page with useless swearing) don't have a survivable habitat here. We are on a higher discussion/debate level than that, and know when to control our language enough to use swears in the most extreme circumstances for the most part.
 
I voted yes.

When I was a young child, I read Fredric Brown's Martians Go Home for the first time, and the martians would quim in and say "---- you, Mack", then leave. It was a mystery what the "----" was then, and mystery is what makes life interesting.

FYI: All the men were called "Mack", all the broads were called "toots". If you haven't read it, your loss.
 
ARealConservative said:
then start your own board and enforce the rules you think do matter.
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Ummm....whats your problem? If your too up your own arse to join a simple harmless debate whereby i gather the opinions on the swearing filter on this forum which i happen to think is a slight annoyance, then leave the damn thread.
 
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