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    Re: Amendment to get rid of the Electoral College?

    I guess because Al Gore would have been President in 2000?
    Because Bush was superb. Superb.

    Look at election results. All of the most populous states regularly vote Democrat. California and New York alone could nearly decide an election, as their populations nearly out strip the rest of the country. If it were pure popular vote, almost no GOP candidates would stand a chance.
    Yeah, I really don't think so: Florida and Texas. Besides, when you look at the popular vote, it is usually evenly split. To the point that a few percentage difference can be a landslide victory.
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    Re: Amendment to get rid of the Electoral College?

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    Our country was founded on Liberty, not Democracy.
    Right, that is why the electoral college must remain. Or conservatives would have to move.

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    Re: Amendment to get rid of the Electoral College?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No,its not what our founding forefathers intended and it would silence or take way any say that the less populated states have.
    The electoral college arguably does take away any say that less populated states have because California has 55 votes while Vermont has 3. Plus you only have to win 12 states to win the presidential election. So if you're worried about people's say those are two problems.

    Anyway, shouldn't who the candidate who the people elect be the president? In 2000 Gore won got more votes but Bush won because of the electoral college. (No I don't have a vandetta against Bush it's just a great example). I just think the president should be who the people vote for not who the elitist vote for.

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    Re: Amendment to get rid of the Electoral College?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Look at election results. All of the most populous states regularly vote Democrat. California and New York alone could nearly decide an election, as their populations nearly out strip the rest of the country. If it were pure popular vote, almost no GOP candidates would stand a chance.
    Ahhh, California and New York have a huge amount of electoral votes now. There would be no difference whatsoever. They do count popular vote, you know. The election results for EVERY recent election except Bush-Gore would have been he exact same under either system. So, factually, your comment makes no sense. Reagan would have still won twice, Bush 1 would have won, Nixon would have won, etc.
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    Re: Amendment to get rid of the Electoral College?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Because Bush was superb. Superb.



    Yeah, I really don't think so: Florida and Texas.
    Put those two against all of the Northeast, California, Washington and Oregon, Minnesota and Wysconsin and see how quickly you would lose.

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    Re: Amendment to get rid of the Electoral College?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Look at election results. All of the most populous states regularly vote Democrat. California and New York alone could nearly decide an election, as their populations nearly out strip the rest of the country. If it were pure popular vote, almost no GOP candidates would stand a chance.
    I don't understand your point, shouldn't the person with the most votes be elected no matter where you're from? Besides a political realignment period already happened once it could happen again.

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    Re: Amendment to get rid of the Electoral College?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Put those two against all of the Northeast, California, Washington and Oregon, Minnesota and Wysconsin and see how quickly you would lose.
    Even so, if we are going by the popular vote, there is a near even divide every time; to the point a few percentage difference, in the U.S., constitutes a landslide victory.

    Excepting the Bush election, the electoral college is a difference which makes no difference, which is why I don't see any point in maintaining it. But it also isn't worth expending political capital in the battle to up end it.
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    Re: Amendment to get rid of the Electoral College?

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Should Congress create an amendment to get rid of the electoral college? Why or why not?
    No because populism and an even purer democracy is horrible to freedom and liberty.

    The Electoral College is more preferable.
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    Re: Amendment to get rid of the Electoral College?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I think the entire process is outdated and flawed. Why do we need them? I think we should have a general vote in which every single vote is tallied in a national count and not a state count. The current system where it is possible to have the lesser vote and still obtain office is ridiculas. With the current system its not about what the people want but what the system allows.
    So you would want densely populated states to decided laws for your state? The system isn't perfect but its much better than NewYork,California and other densely populated states trying to decided gun laws,hunting laws,abortion and etc for my state.
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    Re: Amendment to get rid of the Electoral College?

    Just to point out something Florida doesn't always go Democrat or Republican it's a swing state people come on.

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