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  • Hate is a choice - a person chooses to hate

    29 63.04%
  • Hate is not a choice - hateful people are unconscious to their own behaviour

    6 13.04%
  • Hateful people have a mental illness

    4 8.70%
  • Hateful people have given up on themselves and no longer care if they are decent people or not

    3 6.52%
  • Hateful people deserve our compassion because they're in such bad shape as human beings

    5 10.87%
  • Other

    16 34.78%
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I voted that hate is a Choice.

    However, after reading the thread, a caveat…

    Hate is a choice, but one can be influenced into choosing hatred by those around them. In other words, "Taught".

    At Tucker Case.

    I agree in the main. I cannot deny that rage builds within me when I think of pedophiles and their actions.

    Terrorists come to mind as another group worthy of hatred.

    Although actually, I do not so much "hate" terrorists, as I do "pity" them. Actually, I consider terrorists as a good example of "taught" hatred, taken to an extreme.

    I was struck by the phrase 'group worthy of hatred'. Since hate is in the mind and heart of the one who hates is the hater worthy of entertaining a mind state of hate.

    It hurts the hater more than those hated in this way. JMO

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    I was struck by the phrase 'group worthy of hatred'. Since hate is in the mind and heart of the one who hates is the hater worthy of entertaining a mind state of hate.

    It hurts the hater more than those hated in this way. JMO
    Perhaps "group worthy of hatred" is not an accurate way to describe it.

    It is more, in my mind, something along the lines of "subset of persons whose actions in part or in whole are worthy of hatred or despise".

    I don't actually hate the person who commits such an action unless or until they commit said action. I dislike child molestation to such an extent that I sometimes find myself considering torture as an appropriate punishment.

    This, IMO, is hatred of a certain action, which in most cases transfers immediately to the person doing the deed. Certainly I transfer my hatred of the act of Child molestation to the person committing it.

    If this is wrong, I don't know how I can be right, as I cannot see anyway around hating such actions and the persons who commit them.

    Edit: Although I wonder if perhaps "utter loathing and a desire for revenge against" is a better term for my feelings than a simple "hatred".

    Likely it means the same in the end.
    Last edited by The Mark; 07-21-09 at 06:33 PM.
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Well, it does kill an afternoon.
    You have a very sick sense of humor
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Perhaps "group worthy of hatred" is not an accurate way to describe it.

    It is more, in my mind, something along the lines of "subset of persons whose actions in part or in whole are worthy of hatred or despise".

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    How about, "group who, by their actions and intentions, are worthy of being exterminated."

    Works for me. Hate doesn't necessarily have to enter into it...I'd drop the hammer on someone I liked, if they were threatening someone I loved.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    How about, "group who, by their actions and intentions, are worthy of being exterminated."

    Works for me. Hate doesn't necessarily have to enter into it...I'd drop the hammer on someone I liked, if they were threatening someone I loved.
    Perhaps, perhaps.

    But in my mind, there is no "group" out there which deserves this.

    Nor will there ever be.

    Individuals, yes.

    I dislike classifying persons into a "group". It breeds ignorance of the individuals who make up said group. Although it is easier, and I tend to do it myself.
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Is Hate a Choice?
    This is a good question.
    I'm not sure there's one universal answer.
    I think for some people, it is a choice.
    Others can't help themselves.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    A number of them do not kill anyone and are drawn to and thrive in cuthroat corporate environments.
    I was tracking with you until you made this absurd statement.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Perhaps, perhaps.

    But in my mind, there is no "group" out there which deserves this.

    Nor will there ever be.

    Individuals, yes.

    I dislike classifying persons into a "group". It breeds ignorance of the individuals who make up said group. Although it is easier, and I tend to do it myself.
    Agree with you in principle.

    However, if that entire group which identifies itself as "al-Queda" were to suddenly come down with a serious case of dead, I would surely feel it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of mass-murderers.

    Treating people as individuals is nice, if you have the time and opportunity. However when I see an individual I group-classify as "gang-banger" in my back yard at 4am, taking time to get to know him as a person just isn't in the cards.
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    No, hate is not a choice. It is a natural emotion. I do not have to will myself to hate another. Sometimes, hate is right, sometimes, hate is the only option.

    Ignorance? That's certainly a choice.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Treating people as individuals is nice, if you have the time and opportunity. However when I see an individual I group-classify as "gang-banger" in my back yard at 4am, taking time to get to know him as a person just isn't in the cards.
    One of my neighbors had some kind of mental breakdown and showed up at the neighbor's front door, stark nekkid and raving like a lunatic. And I thought, he's damn lucky he didn't get himself shot. Show up at the wrong house in my neighborhood like that, and they're going to shoot first and ask questions later.

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