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  • Hate is a choice - a person chooses to hate

    29 63.04%
  • Hate is not a choice - hateful people are unconscious to their own behaviour

    6 13.04%
  • Hateful people have a mental illness

    4 8.70%
  • Hateful people have given up on themselves and no longer care if they are decent people or not

    3 6.52%
  • Hateful people deserve our compassion because they're in such bad shape as human beings

    5 10.87%
  • Other

    16 34.78%
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not denial. It's going to happen!
    Sure it will.... Sure it will.

    And at least the NL doesn't have the damned DH cheater position.
    How is a DH cheating? If anything, it gives a disadvantage to the AL in the world series because their pitchers are not used to hitting and the managers are not used to double switches and such.

    Instead, I argue that not having a DH means the NL cheats.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    How is a DH cheating? If anything, it gives a disadvantage to the AL in the world series because their pitchers are not used to hitting and the managers are not used to double switches and such.

    Instead, I argue that not having a DH means the NL cheats.
    No way. The DH is a cheater position and clearly gives the advantage to the AL. The AL teams spend tons of money on a DH, a guy who can only hit. The NL just has to pick someone from their team. Pitchers, regardless of league, seem not used to hitting (which makes no sense to me because they've played baseball their whole lives, they've had to learn to bat a little at least. I think a pitcher should at least be able to bat near .200) so that's a wash. And your last point is a great point against the DH, it takes out strategy. The NL has to think a bit more about how to do things. The AL, you just sit back and wait for someone to hit the homerun.

    The DH is a crap position. You're getting paid 10's of millions at least to play baseball, so play baseball. Even Manny Ramirez has to play a position (god I hate that guy), get out there and do it. The DH gives clear advantage to the AL and is exactly why the AL is a bunch of cheaters. Especially NY and Boston.
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No way. The DH is a cheater position and clearly gives the advantage to the AL. The AL teams spend tons of money on a DH, a guy who can only hit. The NL just has to pick someone from their team. Pitchers, regardless of league, seem not used to hitting (which makes no sense to me because they've played baseball their whole lives, they've had to learn to bat a little at least. I think a pitcher should at least be able to bat near .200) so that's a wash. And your last point is a great point against the DH, it takes out strategy. The NL has to think a bit more about how to do things. The AL, you just sit back and wait for someone to hit the homerun.

    The DH is a crap position. You're getting paid 10's of millions at least to play baseball, so play baseball. Even Manny Ramirez has to play a position (god I hate that guy), get out there and do it. The DH gives clear advantage to the AL and is exactly why the AL is a bunch of cheaters. Especially NY and Boston.
    We should probably start another thread to discuss the merits/demerits of the DH and stop hijacking this one.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    So sick of the hobos
    always beggin' for change
    I don't like how I have to work
    and they just sit around and get paid...


    I hate all the people
    who can't drive their cars
    guess you better get out of my way
    before I start fallin' apart....

    I hate how my wife
    is always up my ass
    she always wants to buy brand new things
    and I don't have the cash.

    I hate my job
    all my rich friends
    I hate everyone to the bitter end
    Nothin' turns out right
    there's no end in sight
    I hate my life...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oxaberFIvw"]YouTube - THEORY OF A DEADMAN Hate My Life[/ame]
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    It's so idiotic that they decided to use psychopath and sociopath interchangeably. It makes much more sense to use sociopath for people who "have no conscience" but are not out of touch with the basics of reality, such as Timothy McVeigh. And psychopath for people who do evil things because they are out of touch with the basics of reality. You know, like when burning bushes start talking to you and the same voice tells you to kill your son or commit genocide against the Canaanites, like Moses.
    Sociopaths and psychopaths share some common denominators but are not the same.

    You are confusing psychotic with psychopaths. Psychotics hallucinate. Psychopaths are sane. They know right from wrong. They are legally sane. They have no empathy for others, and there brains are wired differently from the rest of us.

    A number of them do not kill anyone and are drawn to and thrive in cuthroat corporate environments.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I agree with Catz, hate is taught, though sometimes it is a natural reaction to things one does not understand.
    Hate is Taught. IF you survive the Lesson. By those that hate you.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    How exactly is hate taught?

    Hate arises from within. It's a reaction.
    Last edited by windovervocalcords; 07-21-09 at 05:14 PM.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    How exactly is hate taught?

    Hate arises from within. It's a reaction.
    While hate its self may not be something that is taught, attaching it to everything you dislike or do not agree with can be.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    While hate its self may not be something that is taught, attaching it to everything you dislike or do not agree with can be.
    Yes. It can become a habit to hate, and think, speak and act hatefully.

    Become Pavlovian; stimulus--response, and not much thought or consideration in between.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    I voted that hate is a Choice.

    However, after reading the thread, a caveat…

    Hate is a choice, but one can be influenced into choosing hatred by those around them. In other words, "Taught".

    At Tucker Case.

    I agree in the main. I cannot deny that rage builds within me when I think of pedophiles and their actions.

    Terrorists come to mind as another group worthy of hatred.

    Although actually, I do not so much "hate" terrorists, as I do "pity" them. Actually, I consider terrorists as a good example of "taught" hatred, taken to an extreme.
    Education.

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