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  • Hate is a choice - a person chooses to hate

    29 63.04%
  • Hate is not a choice - hateful people are unconscious to their own behaviour

    6 13.04%
  • Hateful people have a mental illness

    4 8.70%
  • Hateful people have given up on themselves and no longer care if they are decent people or not

    3 6.52%
  • Hateful people deserve our compassion because they're in such bad shape as human beings

    5 10.87%
  • Other

    16 34.78%
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    Here's another Gwendoline:
    The Psychopath: The Mask of Sanity

    My point is; does someone like a psychopath who has no capacity for empathy have choice when it comes to doing hateful things to others?

    I think not. Psychopaths don't respond the same way others of us do to other people's suffering. They have to fake emotions.
    It's so idiotic that they decided to use psychopath and sociopath interchangeably. It makes much more sense to use sociopath for people who "have no conscience" but are not out of touch with the basics of reality, such as Timothy McVeigh. And psychopath for people who do evil things because they are out of touch with the basics of reality. You know, like when burning bushes start talking to you and the same voice tells you to kill your son or commit genocide against the Canaanites, like Moses.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    It's so idiotic that they decided to use psychopath and sociopath interchangeably. It makes much more sense to use sociopath for people who "have no conscience" but are not out of touch with the basics of reality, such as Timothy McVeigh. And psychopath for people who do evil things because they are out of touch with the basics of reality. You know, like when burning bushes start talking to you and the same voice tells you to kill your son or commit genocide against the Canaanites, like Moses.
    I sense a little hate in your post.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I sense a little hate in your post.
    Well I do find the old testament a little morally outrageous, but there was a lot of insurmountable ignorance in those days.

    I really dislike the redundant and arbitrary nature of psychology, but it's a "science" in its infancy. And if people like those who wrote that article continue to contribute to it, it won't mature anytime soon. lol

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    It's so idiotic that they decided to use psychopath and sociopath interchangeably. It makes much more sense to use sociopath for people who "have no conscience" but are not out of touch with the basics of reality, such as Timothy McVeigh. And psychopath for people who do evil things because they are out of touch with the basics of reality. You know, like when burning bushes start talking to you and the same voice tells you to kill your son or commit genocide against the Canaanites, like Moses.
    I hate stupid people who can't be bothered to buy a dictionary.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    It's so idiotic that they decided to use psychopath and sociopath interchangeably. It makes much more sense to use sociopath for people who "have no conscience" but are not out of touch with the basics of reality, such as Timothy McVeigh. And psychopath for people who do evil things because they are out of touch with the basics of reality. You know, like when burning bushes start talking to you and the same voice tells you to kill your son or commit genocide against the Canaanites, like Moses.
    Psychopaths are not out of touch with reality.

    You are thinking of Psychotics.
    Last edited by Tucker Case; 07-21-09 at 12:15 PM.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    - Difference between a psychopath and a sociopath:

    Which brings me back to the original question: the difference between a psychopath and sociopath. If you subscribe to the Hare criteria for a psychopath, then you see the conning, manipulative narcissistic liar and user as a psychopath, as long as he or she is completely lacking in remorse or empathy. The sociopath, however, is capable of guilt, caring, building relationships, etc., but only within a certain context. He or she will have loyalties to a specific group but not to society at large. They care nothing for social norms and will break them with impunity if it serves their purpose. So, on the surface, they may resemble psychopaths. However, they might genuinely feel remorse over harming someone within their group or family. They will have a moral code specific to that context: they might not lie, exploit, or manipulate within the group. Thus, they exhibit psychopathic behaviors in certain contexts but not all.
    In Cold Blog: Psychopath vs. Sociopath

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwendoline View Post
    Is hate a choice? If it is, why would anyone choose it? It's not good for us or anyone around us. Bad for emotional / physical health. Has a way of making us look / sound ugly, and it ties our insides up in knots. Poisons relationships, spreads ill-will, creates unnecessary stress, and it also has a tendency to escalate / turn into violent / aggressive behaviour if left unchecked. Hate dehumanises people, which is one of the worst things it does.

    Special Note: Hate is a natural reaction / emotion to certain things. It is a very human thing to feel hate at times. I'm not talking about the kind of hate we feel in the moment that passes quickly, or at least, passes reasonably quickly, I am not talking about a natural reaction of hate that is triggered in us in an "immediate" situation happening around us. I am talking about an "attitude of hate". An attitude of hate that "prevails" and becomes part of persons prominent makeup - a part of their constant dialogue - where a person expresses strong hatred towards others in the shape / form of attacking / scapegoating / one particular group or another, be they women or homosexuals or Jews, and on.

    Is hate a choice? If yes, why choose it? It's incredibly destructive as a behaviour / and it cuts us off from genuine human engagement with others. Hate doesn't seem to have much going for it. What do you think?

    Please choose whichever answer/s resonate with you.
    Hate from my perspective is a choice. I grew up in a family of haters. No Im not joking all the men in my family are this way. As I grew up I also became this way and lived being angry at everything all the time.

    It took my driving away everyone I cared about to realize how I was acting and at that point I took a good inward look at myself and saw just what I had become. From that day forward I vowed never to be that way again and I think I have suceeded.

    You wonder at the reason. I believe it is because it seems to be easier for them to be angry at the world instead of coping with the world. It is their reaction to everything. If someone/something does something I do not agree with it is easier to get angry, complain, and ignore it rather then take the time and the possibility of failure to manage it in a more responsible way. I think it is a symptom of insecurity.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    You almost got a thanks for that except ya had to go and add the Whitesox part.

    I fixed it for you though.
    Pfft. Sox suck. The AL is a bunch of cheaters anyway. Cubs may not have won in over 100 years, but they're still the better franchise. And we'll win that damned series soon enough! Just you wait and see, and when we do...there will be riots everywhere. I'm gonna loot a Walmart.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And we'll win that damned series soon enough! Just you wait and see, and when we do...there will be riots everywhere. I'm gonna loot a Walmart.
    Yeah.... the denial of the Cubs fan truly is something to behold.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Yeah.... the denial of the Cubs fan truly is something to behold.
    It's not denial. It's going to happen! And at least the NL doesn't have the damned DH cheater position.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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