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  • Hate is a choice - a person chooses to hate

    29 63.04%
  • Hate is not a choice - hateful people are unconscious to their own behaviour

    6 13.04%
  • Hateful people have a mental illness

    4 8.70%
  • Hateful people have given up on themselves and no longer care if they are decent people or not

    3 6.52%
  • Hateful people deserve our compassion because they're in such bad shape as human beings

    5 10.87%
  • Other

    16 34.78%
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Other: you make it seems as if Hate is a bad emotion. On the contrary it is and was quiet useful for the survival of the species. Just because some have unfounded hate, doesnt mean hate is wrong in general terms.
    I don't think hate is a bad emotion. I already explained in the opening post about that. Perhaps you didn't read it. Hate is a very natural emotion. I am talking about the kind of hate that is ongoing, extreme, and probably quite unmanageable to a person.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    First, It seems that generalized hatred towards a group is always being viewed as a bad thing. I don't think that is the case.

    For example, I HATE pedophiles. I despise them. If I could, I would personally beat the crap out of each and every one of them if I could.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with my hatred of these people.

    I also don't think my hatred is because of an arbitrary distinction.

    And that's the issue.

    Hating an entire group of people for arbitrary reasons, such as race religion, gender, non-victimizing lifestyle choices, etc. is wrong, IMO.

    Hating a group of people for specific reasons, such as for behaviors they engage in that harm others, is not necessarily wrong.

    I hate lots of groups of people. I don't hate for arbitrary reasons though.

    In fact, I would say that EVERYBODY hates some group of people. I think it's totally natural.

    I think that bigotry stems form this natural inclination to hate abhorrent behaviors because bigots ignorantly apply abhorrent behaviors to a group based on arbitrary distinctions. They overgeneralize behaviors present in a subgroup to the main group because of arbitrary similarities between the subgroup and the main group.

    Hatred itself is not bad, but bigotry is. Bigotry is a product of a combination of natural emotions and ignorance. It is not necessarily a "choice" because the ignorance is the primary cause. If it is willful ignorance, then it is clearly a choice. If it is ignorance bred from inexperience or teaching, it isn't necessarily a choice.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Sorry, the poll was not up when I commented. I voted a choice, though I do think it is taught to a degree. Still, a person has the ability to choose to get past the hate and get to know those they dislike. Many in my family are racist, but I have softened them greatly over the years. My best friend is a black guy and my family loves him. The rest of my friends consist of Indians, Chinese, Turkish, Nicaraguan, and Polish. So even though I come from a very close minded family, I have chosen to embrace all that I meet.
    Do you think that you chose to embrace all that you meet - through watching your "closed minded family" and wanting to do better than them? Or was it something intrinsic to you? Something more to do with your own particular character? more than the affect of having closed minded people around you?

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Well Gwen most people who are filled with hate so far that it consumes them, actually just project their own insecurities. Unfounded emotions of any kind have an inner and personal story, most times the emotions have nothing to do with the target in question. Just my 2 cents.
    I agree with you. Projection is a huge element in how we treat others.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    For most of us hate is a choice.

    Now, that said, what about psychopaths who have no conscience and are born not made?

    They behave hatefully. Do they really have choice.
    Last edited by windovervocalcords; 07-21-09 at 09:48 AM.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    When people look inward and all that is staring back at them is a sense of worthlesness, unhapiness, and frustration, one way of dealing with it is through some honest soul searching and positive steps taken to elevate their self esteem. Few people take this route. More commonly, they joust at windmlls rather than turning inward, and their creation of groups to despise is their way of feeling better about themselves. Of course, ths is just an illusion since tearing down others doesn't really satisfy, but it offers the person a less than honest way of elevating themself.

    I believe this works on the cultural as well as individual level as well, especially inasmuch as it is such an easy matter to exploit the chips people have on their shoulder as well as the doctrinaire nature of so many forms of hatred. Heck, those who hate Jewish people (and there is one working the forum who denies there is even such thing as Jewish people despite their 3500 year old history) have it down to such a degree they might as well be following a recipe.
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwendoline View Post
    Do you think that you chose to embrace all that you meet - through watching your "closed minded family" and wanting to do better than them? Or was it something intrinsic to you? Something more to do with your own particular character? more than the affect of having closed minded people around you?
    I think it is an intrinsic difference with me. When I began college and came into contact with so many different groups of people, I began to become ever more intrigued with different cultures and histories. Also, as a scientist, I am natural curious, so I gravitate toward things I do not understand.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I sometimes wonder if it has to do with the type of personality we have. I'm an ENFP, my boyfriend is an INTJ, my brother is an INTJ. My parents are ISTJs.
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    I am unfamiliar with this "personaility" test, or measurement you refer to. I'd like to know where I fall :crosses fingers for LMNOP:
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwendoline View Post
    Is hate a choice? If it is, why would anyone choose it? It's not good for us or anyone around us. Bad for emotional / physical health. Has a way of making us look / sound ugly, and it ties our insides up in knots. Poisons relationships, spreads ill-will, creates unnecessary stress, and it also has a tendency to escalate / turn into violent / aggressive behaviour if left unchecked. Hate dehumanises people, which is one of the worst things it does.

    Special Note: Hate is a natural reaction / emotion to certain things. It is a very human thing to feel hate at times. I'm not talking about the kind of hate we feel in the moment that passes quickly, or at least, passes reasonably quickly, I am not talking about a natural reaction of hate that is triggered in us in an "immediate" situation happening around us. I am talking about an "attitude of hate". An attitude of hate that "prevails" and becomes part of persons prominent makeup - a part of their constant dialogue - where a person expresses strong hatred towards others in the shape / form of attacking / scapegoating / one particular group or another, be they women or homosexuals or Jews, and on.

    Is hate a choice? If yes, why choose it? It's incredibly destructive as a behaviour / and it cuts us off from genuine human engagement with others. Hate doesn't seem to have much going for it. What do you think?

    Please choose whichever answer/s resonate with you.
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post


    I am unfamiliar with this "personaility" test, or measurement you refer to. I'd like to know where I fall :crosses fingers for LMNOP:
    I had you pegged for a qwert, myself.


    I only say that because I am an intj, though.
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