View Poll Results: Is Hate a Choice?

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  • Hate is a choice - a person chooses to hate

    29 63.04%
  • Hate is not a choice - hateful people are unconscious to their own behaviour

    6 13.04%
  • Hateful people have a mental illness

    4 8.70%
  • Hateful people have given up on themselves and no longer care if they are decent people or not

    3 6.52%
  • Hateful people deserve our compassion because they're in such bad shape as human beings

    5 10.87%
  • Other

    16 34.78%
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    Psychopaths are born and not made. Hate is a poison of the mind. It is emotion. It is the easiest emotioni to recognize because it is so physical.
    Hate is in the same family as anger, just more extreme. Psychopaths lie with ease and are very charming. John Wayne Gacy is a famous psychopath. Even after a piece of journalism proved his credentials for holding an important role in his community weere bogus, the community supported him even after it was proved that he lied. Gacy predicted they would support him because he had charmed them.

    Psychopaths make up 1% of the general population, but 25% of the prison population, according to Dr. Hare. "Violence is not uncommon among offender populations, but psychopaths still manage to stand out," he says. "They commit more than twice as many violent and aggressive acts, both in and out of prison, as do other criminals."

    1. Glibness/superficial charm

    2. Grandiose sense of self-worth

    3. Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom

    4. Pathological lying

    5. Conning/manipulative

    6. Lack of remorse or guilt

    7. Shallow affect

    8. Callous/lack of empathy

    9. Parasitic lifestyle

    10. Poor behavioural controls

    11. Promiscuous sexual behaviour

    12. Early behaviour problems

    13. Lack of realistic, long-term plans

    14. Impulsivity

    15. Irresponsibility

    16. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

    17. Many short-term relationships

    18. Juvenile delinquency

    19. Revocation of conditional release

    20. Criminal versatility

    21. Narcissism
    The checklist is from the book; WITHOUT CONCIENCE by Robert D Hare, PHD.







    Please link to the man who cures psychopaths please.
    How the heck do you think someone could be born like that?


    The film I saw on this was in the early 90's and I don't have the person's name. I don't think I said they were 'cured'. I said they began to be able to feel warmth for others. That is what the psychopath lacks. A lot of people not diagnosed as psychopaths also have the inability to feel empathy. For conclusive results the work would have had to continue. However it does show that healing is possible.

    I have though found this. It may be the same person or it may be someone else. As this work was also stopped it possibly is the same person. This however is not what I saw. You will need to do a lot of reading. Here is an exert.


    Dr BOB JOHNSON
    "The reason that they are so anti-social
    is that they really don’t care,
    they have been taught they are of no
    consequence, they have no self-esteem
    and they don’t believe that any other
    human-being is of any merit or value
    at all. So therefore they are quite
    comfortable with the notion that if
    you cut people up and chop them up, or
    put them through the mincer which is
    what you hear and these people are
    quite capable of doing that,
    they register no feelings, they
    have no value system there because
    they’ve never been taught any value
    system."

    ........


    Tom Mangold
    "Dr Johnson’s starting point in therapy
    with men like Lee was that predators
    are not born evil they simply learn to
    become evil often from childhood
    trauma they’ve never talked about
    before."


    Dr Bob Johnson
    "I would sit down with them, get to
    know them first, this is the first
    thing. I would establish a trusting
    straight-forward relationship with
    them, something that many of them had
    never had before and this took a long
    time in some cases, a matter of years.
    And then I would discuss with them the
    deepest fears they’d had, the fears
    from childhood, the traumas they’d
    suffered, things that they would not
    wish to talk about at all, that was
    the key. There was a terror in
    childhood that they blocked off. I
    used to call it frozen terror or
    buried terror. Every single one, they
    wouldn’t all reveal it, they wouldn’t
    all discuss it, some discussed it sort
    of indirectly or moved themselves, but
    there’s no question in my mind now
    that inside every memory there was a
    toxic memory which is this terror."


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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I hate Onions. I want the entire Allium genus to go extinct.

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    Say it ain't so, Tucker!!

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Say it ain't so, Tucker!!


    Sung to "Paint it black"

    I see a scallion and I want it to be dead
    No onions anymore I want them to be dead
    I see the chives you put in my baked po-ta-to
    I have to turn my head before my rage explodes
    I see some shallots and I want to make them dead
    I had to eat them all before I went to bed.
    You can place the blame for this upon my dear old dad,
    He made me eat them even though they taste so bad!

    I wanna see the whole
    Mutha ****in' genus die!
    Even garlic! Which I like, has gotta die!

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Sung to "Paint it black"

    I see a scallion and I want it to be dead
    No onions anymore I want them to be dead
    I see the chives you put in my baked po-ta-to
    I have to turn my head before my rage explodes
    I see some shallots and I want to make them dead
    I had to eat them all before I went to bed.
    You can place the blame for this upon my dear old dad,
    He made me eat them even though they taste so bad!

    I wanna see the whole
    Mutha ****in' genus die!
    Even garlic! Which I like, has gotta die!


    Should I assume that was you in St Petersburg when the blitzkrieg raged and the garlic stank?
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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Should I assume that was you in St Petersburg when the blitzkrieg raged and the garlic stank?
    I was around when Jesus Christ had his moment of onion pain.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Due some reading and attend to brain differences in psychopaths. I hope you never run into them. They thrive on the naive and are great manipulators.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    How the heck do you think someone could be born like that?


    The film I saw on this was in the early 90's and I don't have the person's name. I don't think I said they were 'cured'. I said they began to be able to feel warmth for others. That is what the psychopath lacks. A lot of people not diagnosed as psychopaths also have the inability to feel empathy. For conclusive results the work would have had to continue. However it does show that healing is possible.

    I have though found this. It may be the same person or it may be someone else. As this work was also stopped it possibly is the same person. This however is not what I saw. You will need to do a lot of reading. Here is an exert.





    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sta...ammes/panorama

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    No its not, however from experience, I can tell you, it helps. And anything that helps make one more less dead better, good.
    Wind has a great deal of experience in combat. You should listen to her.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    this does not mean much to me... Someone rapes your child, how do you NOT hate this person?
    You hate the person, but it is a choice to do so, even if it doesn't feel that way at the time.

    There are people who are able to turn around their minds and hearts even after such a devastating life experience as the rape of a child. It doesn't mean the deed goes without punishment and it doesn't mean there is true reconciliation between the victims family and the perpetrator.

    I'm thinking of victims who are opposed to the death penalty, for example.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwendoline View Post
    Special Note: Hate is a natural reaction / emotion to certain things. It is a very human thing to feel hate at times.
    And as such, hate is not a choice. You cannot choose how you feel, you can only choose what you do with those feelings.

    Hate, true hate, is a major investement in time and energy, and requires a significant emotional attachment.
    Few people truly understand that.

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    Re: Is hate a Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hate, true hate, is a major investement in time and energy, and requires a significant emotional attachment.
    Few people truly understand that.
    I hate no one. I despise, at times, my ex-husband, for the effects he has on my kids, but I don't even hate him. Hate requires a lot of energy, and I'm already too busy. Now, schadenfreude, that's a feeling I can get into. Laughing at stupid people is another satisfying activity. But hate? psht. Who has time for that?

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