View Poll Results: Are you willing to be fined for simply living?

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  • No.

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  • Don't care one way or the other. IT'S HEALTH INSURENCE!!!

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    Re: Are you willing...

    Ugh. Maybe our government is just ten times more inept than most. Seriously, they want to implement one of the major flaws of the Mass. Plan into the national plan? Requiring people to buy insurance is just a subsidy for the already misbehaved private insurance and a hardship on people who can't pay the premiums. Maybe this will be mitigated, in comparison to the Mass. Plan, by having the public option, but we'll see how well that works out in the long run with how ****ing stupid and in the pockets of special interests Congress is.

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    Re: Are you willing...

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I thought I remember you saying you had gotten some health insurance through your work, and you were going to "try it out". Is this no longer the case?
    Yeah, my dad got me health insurance through my work, a year ago last fall. He reimburses me every month for what they take out of my check (which is a lot).
    I took a temporary leave of absence from work, but started back last week, so I still have insurance.
    As I said in my post, my husband doesn't have insurance, never did, never will. His job doesn't offer it, and he can't afford to leave his job. He's been there for years. He doesn't make enough for private coverage, though.

    (On an unrelated note, I don't think "having insurance" has necessarily been a good thing for me; I've never felt sicker or been on more meds in my life, than I have in the past year and a half since I've had insurance).

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    Re: Are you willing...

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Yeah, my dad got me health insurance through my work, a year ago last fall. He reimburses me every month for what they take out of my check (which is a lot).
    I took a temporary leave of absence from work, but started back last week, so I still have insurance.
    As I said in my post, my husband doesn't have insurance, never did, never will. His job doesn't offer it, and he can't afford to leave his job. He's been there for years. He doesn't make enough for private coverage, though.

    (On an unrelated note, I don't think "having insurance" has necessarily been a good thing for me; I've never felt sicker or been on more meds in my life, than I have in the past year and a half since I've had insurance).
    I guess I was assuming your health insurance plan was a family plan. I don't technically have my own insurance, but I am on the insurance plan my wife gets through her employer.
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    Re: Are you willing...

    ****ing hell im actually missing republicans. O_o
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    Re: Are you willing...

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I guess I was assuming your health insurance plan was a family plan. I don't technically have my own insurance, but I am on the insurance plan my wife gets through her employer.
    No. He doesn't want insurance, anyway.
    I didn't either; I only got it because of a very specific medical problem I was having about two years ago; since that's been resolved, I really don't want insurance anymore, although I still have it.
    I guess I've always been more of the school of thought that if you ignore a symptom long enough, it will probably go away or resolve on its own after awhile. If it doesn't, or if it gets a lot worse, you probably need to go to the ER.
    This alternative to health insurance is actually quite feasible for most healthy young adults. I realize, however, that as one gets older, it becomes akin to playing russian roulette.
    I am still coming to terms with the fact that I'm not young anymore; that I'm actually old enough to get cancer or some other serious illness.
    My husband still has not come to terms with that fact, and may never.
    He doesn't like doctors and doesn't want insurance.

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    Re: Are you willing...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You are required to have car insurance in NJ no matter what. If you do not have it and are caught, you get a variety of consequences. Here are the requirements and the consequences for NOT carrying insurance:
    Driving is a privilege, not a right.

    Living is a right.

    See the difference?

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    Re: Are you willing...

    If I recall correctly, when Edwards was still a serious presidential contender, he had ideas about a similar plan; I believe that his would've mandated not only health insurance coverage but also compliance with all doctor-recommended screenings (annual PAPs and mammograms starting at 40 for women; yearly physicals for everyone; colonoscopies each year for everyone over 50, etc).
    I believe he cited his wife's inoperable breast cancer as the reason, and the fact that her life could've been saved under this plan.

    These notions pretty much made him a laughingstock and knocked him out of the running for democratic nominee, even before his fall from grace.

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    Re: Are you willing...

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    If I recall correctly, when Edwards was still a serious presidential contender......
    Someone once took Edwards seriously?
    Last edited by Jerry; 07-19-09 at 10:45 AM.

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    Re: Are you willing...

    Ya know a few months ago if someone had asked me if I had ever thought that our government would push through something like this I would have laughed in their face and told them that they were idiots.

    Now....now I'm not going to put anything past them. I know alot of people blame Bush for so many things...but at least he never tried this crap.
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    Re: Are you willing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Ya know a few months ago if someone had asked me if I had ever thought that our government would push through something like this I would have laughed in their face and told them that they were idiots.


    Now....now I'm not going to put anything past them. I know alot of people blame Bush for so many things...but at least he never tried this crap.
    You give people an inch and they try to take a mile. This is just a step above making people pay for public education from,forcing people to give money to abortion groups, forcing tax payers to give money to every useless study out there, forcing people to give money to other countries in the form of foreign aid and many other things. With all those things in mind it should be a surprise at all when the government tries some **** like this.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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