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    Is Politcs Art?

    Would you consider politics an art form, whether the "artist" is a politician or a regular citizen or anything in between?

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    So here's what I think:

    Anything that contains a 'human connection' is art. Many consider the word "art" to be a compliment, when it is actually a word that describes something that has that human connection. The importance is the distinction between good art and bad art. A chair is art, a child is art, hell even sex is art. Dare I say it, murder is art, but considered bad art because of the human connection. A tree is not art, because it has no human connection, however, the process of planting a tree can be considered performance art.

    With that said, politics is an art form. It is criticized, it is glorified, it is created, in some ways it can be destroyed, but most importantly it is thought about. Of course, it is not art until the idea becomes a physical object or an action. If it is just a thought it cannot be art, not yet.

    Ok so I'm done preaching, what do you think?


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    Re: Is Politcs Art?

    It doesn't take talent to be a lying, cheating, stealing dirtbag, which is essentially what most politicians are. It takes talent to be a painter, musician, etc...

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    Re: Is Politcs Art?

    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    It doesn't take talent to be a lying, cheating, stealing dirtbag, which is essentially what most politicians are. It takes talent to be a painter, musician, etc...
    But it is man made right?

    Ok so let's break it down, you say that "it doesn't take talent to be a lying, cheating, stealing dirtbag, which is essentially what most politicians are." And I partly agree with you on that, but what they are doing is still art. In order to understand this better, continue reading:

    Take Chris Burden for example. This guy once nailed himself to the top of a Volkswagen Beetle in 1974 and called it art. Ok so some people call that good art, I call it bad art but it is art nonetheless. Burden's point in doing this kind of thing is to make you think. Even if you thought it was disturbing and wrong (which I do) it still made you think, and through that, Burden has already achieved his goal.

    Now back to politics, I can't think of an example that we will all agree on, so I will make one up. Let's say some Senator proposes a bill that would cause a lot of harm to the U.S. In my opinion, there will always be supporters for a certain bill, so let's say those supporters considered it good art. You and I would probably hate it and reject it immediately; it is art, however it is bad art to you and me, because it is created by a human and is not a creation of nature (of course, we could all argue for days about where things from nature come from, but that's a different topic). Despite the negativity, the bill proposed by the senator made us think about it and analyze it, even thought we might have thought "My god what the bloody hell is this thing that you call 'legislature?'"

    Therefore, for the sake of politics, the senator has not achieved his goal, but for the sake of art, he has, even if he did not consider it art.

    By the way, sorry for the double-posting earlier.


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    Re: Is Politcs Art?

    I think being a statesmen is an artform. Men and women who serve the public good, out of genuine interest and care for the people they serve. To create legislation that (hopefully) makes the lives of people better, is a grand art. There are not many of these politicians left, but there are a few.

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    Re: Is Politcs Art?

    Being a politician is definitely an art form. Unfortunately, it's usually being applied to the political landscape by BS artists.

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    Re: Is Politcs Art?

    Being reffered to as an Artist IMO is the most overated compliment there is.Art is a dictatorship it has to be once conflicted through commitee it has no vision.

    people are impressed but its all emotion not logical.I dont think politics is an art and should be insulted by the suggestion.
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    Re: Is Politcs Art?

    Well I consider Charisma, Leadership, and Persuasion, a skill and art.
    There is a popular Chinese maxim: "The hat is good, the shoes are good. However, if you put the hat on your feet, and the shoes on your head, then both become useless."

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    Re: Is Politcs Art?

    In so far as being in comparison between a science and art, it is more art than science, but still has a sizable amount of science behind it.
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    Re: Is Politcs Art?

    If you consider lying and manipulation a art then yes politics is a art.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Is Politcs Art?

    It's arts lowest form. Attempting to change the behavior and attitudes of people through various dishonest measures is 'artsy' enough...Throw on top of that the added difficulty of having to do all of that while giving off the appearance that you aren't dishonest and you've got yourself an art that's very difficult to perform.

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