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Thread: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

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    Re: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How about a 24-hour wait to buy a gun?
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    If there was some 'equivelant reason' for delaying an abortion for 24 hours, would you then be infavor of it?
    As soon as I saw this thread, I knew you were going there, Goobie. This was, actually, one of your more ingenious "trap" threads. Good job.

    So, here is my question. Since both owning a gun and having an abortion is currently legal, are these two issues comparable? For example, if a 24 hour waiting period is legally appropriate for a woman to have an abortion, is it appropriate to legally have a 24 hour waiting period to purchase a gun? Is this kind of government intervention appropriate for both cases?

    And, as a disclaimer, notice how I worded my questions. We are talking about legalities, here. The unborn fetus has no legal rights in this equation, therefore it is irrelevant. Or, as an analogy, the fetus, in this scenario has the exact same rights as the gun in this scenario. So no, "what about the baby"? This is pretty narrowly construed.
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    Re: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

    It depends on how the process is enacted. How would one begin their 24 hour waiting period, and how is it determined that they have "met their obligation"? I'm not so much concerned about the waiting period, but if the process would somehow expose a girl/woman in danger already, to even more danger.

    I know of one case personally, where a girls life was probably in danger from the person who got her pregnant. If she had not been able to have an abortion immediately, and the "father" had found out, she probably would have been beaten or killed. (weird situation, but we've all had those, and know that they happen)

    So i don't have a problem so much with the wait time as much as a problem with how to best protect the woman involved in making the choice. She should have the opportunity to make that decision in safety and in privacy. I can see where at times, the wait period might take away that privacy and safety.

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    Re: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Could you give an example of what a hypothetical equivalent might be?
    Do I need to? No. Assume the condition exists.

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    Re: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    So, here is my question. Since both owning a gun and having an abortion is currently legal, are these two issues comparable?
    They are both rights exercised by the individual... so, yes.
    If the 24-hr wait can be applied to one, it can be applied to the other.

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    Re: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    They are both rights exercised by the individual... so, yes.
    If the 24-hr wait can be applied to one, it can be applied to the other.
    If you have a CCW you don't have to wait the 24 hours because it confirms your clear history then and there.

    How is the possession of a ZEF not carrying concealed?

    Maybe you should have to earn a license to have children. Maybe we don't want criminals getting pregnant.

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    Re: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If you have a CCW you don't have to wait the 24 hours because it confirms your clear history then and there.
    I guess that depends on the state - my state has no wait, period.
    Perhaps the state could issue licenses for abortions, thereby lifting that 24-hour limit?

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    Re: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I guess that depends on the state - my state has no wait, period.
    Perhaps the state could issue licenses for abortions, thereby lifting that 24-hour limit?
    Everyone who supports mandatory firearms insurance should also support mandatory medical insurance to pay for those abortions.

    And no, you don't get the tax-payer funded Obama-care, you have to actually put some effort into providing for yourself and go get a job to pay for that insurance yourself...unless we enact a nationalized firearm-care program.

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    Re: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

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    Maybe you should have to earn a license to have children.

    That's not a bad idea. You can't just go get a giraffe and keep it in your back yard because the state recognizes that giraffes take special care. Yet any two drugged-up, disease-infected, loser morons can get together and have a baby.

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    Re: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammyo View Post
    That's not a bad idea. You can't just go get a giraffe and keep it in your back yard because the state recognizes that giraffes take special care. Yet any two drugged-up, disease-infected, loser morons can get together and have a baby.
    And that baby gets to vote no matter how ignorant and manipulatable they are.

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    Re: 24 hour waiting period for abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    And that baby gets to vote no matter how ignorant and manipulatable they are.
    Yes, but with certain caveats attached. He's got to keep from being a felon. He's got to care enough to go to the polls. He's got to have some sort of idea of what he wants. -- that sort of thing. I really don't see a viable alternative to allowing all citizens to vote. I mean, at what point to do you take away the rights of morons to voice their opinion about their gov't?

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