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Thread: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    I thought it was "essential liberty." It seemed pertinent because some would claim that certain "liberties" sacrificed for the purpose of greater safety are not "essential" and possibly also that "essential" security rather than "a little" security is gained as a result, thus justifying the sacrifice in cost/benefit terms.

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by mixedmedia View Post
    hmmm, 'America is not worth defending'...must remember this, must remember this...I will chant it tonight in my nightly round of liberal self-hypnosis of the things that I never actually thought but are yet, apparently, attributable to me. By morning I will be right as rain!
    So you are a left-wing extremist? Unless you are, I obviously wasn't referring to you.
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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe View Post
    So you are a left-wing extremist? Unless you are, I obviously wasn't referring to you.
    You didn't say 'left-wing extremist' you said 'far left' which is more vauge. Am I far left? Some people think so. I am farther left than our president.
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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by mixedmedia View Post
    You didn't say 'left-wing extremist' you said 'far left' which is more vauge. Am I far left? Some people think so. I am farther left than our president.
    Wow........Do you even believe in capatalism?

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe View Post
    Wow........Do you even believe in capatalism?
    believe in it, like do I believe it exists? uh, yes.
    Do I believe it has fatal flaws when it is given unfettered domain as a means of shaping and supporting a society? yes
    Do I believe democracy is best served by a balance of capitalistic and socialistic interests that protect both business and people? yes

    But mostly I believe in what Korimyr wrote above me (except for the nationalism, bit, because I'm not real keen on nationalism). And I don't believe that the 'far left' or the 'far right' have much real voice in American politics. It's not in America's interest to be extreme.
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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    I'll put it this way. I don't know that I'd want either extreme actually running the country unrestrained.

    However, from my perspective Obama, Pelosi and Reid are considerably further Left than I am at all comfortable with.


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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by mixedmedia View Post
    believe in it, like do I believe it exists? uh, yes.
    Do I believe it has fatal flaws when it is given unfettered domain as a means of shaping and supporting a society? yes
    Do I believe democracy is best served by a balance of capitalistic and socialistic interests that protect both business and people? yes

    But mostly I believe in what Korimyr wrote above me (except for the nationalism, bit, because I'm not real keen on nationalism). And I don't believe that the 'far left' or the 'far right' have much real voice in American politics. It's not in America's interest to be extreme.
    From what you've just said, you seem to be more moderate than anything else. You surely don't seem further left than PrezBo. You'd have to go to Berkeley to find that.

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is why so many of us left wing types are service veterans...

    I think anything taken too far is dangerous for America.
    Yeah, like John Kerry.
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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe View Post
    So you are a left-wing extremist? Unless you are, I obviously wasn't referring to you.
    I'm a left-wing extremist, and the phrase "America is not worth defending" seemed so vague as to be rendered meaningless. That's why the similar phrase "hating America" is prized by the jingoist; he can label any criticism of governmental policy an attack on the very morals and principles of the nation as a whole.

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    You're asking me whether I'd prefer 19th-century America or the U.S.S.R.? The former, hands down.

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