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Thread: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    How is that different from socialism? The only difference is, with socialism, the "ruling caste" would be the government.

    Also, you use this Wal-Mart analogy as if to say that they are a corporation with absolute totalitarian control, like they have the power to keep people down via low wages. This isn't true. Wal-Mart is used by many people as a stepping stone to better stations in life. That is the beauty of capatalism. As long as you're willing to work hard, noone can hold you back except yourself.

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -Benjamin Franklin
    Poignant words from a slave trader don'tcha think? But regardless he was talking about the security provided for by the crown not a republican system of governance of, by, and for the citizenry, against a foreign threat. Of course during war time certain unessential liberties are temporarily rescinded for the well being of the populace; such as, airport security increases following 9-11.

    And of course the left has absolutely 0 problem giving up other peoples liberties for the sake of their own security (SEE: Welfare, Socialized Medicine, or any other government aid program in which ones right of property is abridged in the name of the general welfare of the population.

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, like John Kerry.
    Or Benedict Arnold.

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I'm a left-wing extremist, and the phrase "America is not worth defending" seemed so vague as to be rendered meaningless. That's why the similar phrase "hating America" is prized by the jingoist; he can label any criticism of governmental policy an attack on the very morals and principles of the nation as a whole.
    Do you or do you not want the Constitution dissolved, if the answer is yes (as I believe it is considering your political affiliation) then you hate America and everything it stands for.

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Anymore I would have to vote for whoever has the better policy on Second Amendment and MY gun ownership.

    Other than that, it's the same doody, different toilet.
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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    The USSR was state capitalist in nature, but presumed to be socialist.
    Yes yes the old "real communism has never existed try mine" schtick, the words of every future totalitarian communist regime ever to exist.

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe View Post
    How is that different from socialism? The only difference is, with socialism, the "ruling caste" would be the government.

    Also, you use this Wal-Mart analogy as if to say that they are a corporation with absolute totalitarian control, like they have the power to keep people down via low wages. This isn't true. Wal-Mart is used by many people as a stepping stone to better stations in life. That is the beauty of capatalism. As long as you're willing to work hard, noone can hold you back except yourself.
    That's only because right now...there are regulations that keep pure Capitalism in check. Allowed to run rampant as the extreme Capitalists want, you would see a return to more exploitation of the workers as was the case in the early days before the formation of unions.

    As far as your first point....you are essentially correct.

    In a purely socialistic state, the government would be the ruling caste
    In a purely communistic state, you would have a party or a corporative ruling caste.

    There are marked similarities and vast differences which make them polar opposites.
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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That's only because right now...there are regulations that keep pure Capitalism in check. Allowed to run rampant as the extreme Capitalists want, you would see a return to more exploitation of the workers as was the case in the early days before the formation of unions.

    As far as your first point....you are essentially correct.

    In a purely socialistic state, the government would be the ruling caste
    In a purely communistic state, you would have a party or a corporative ruling caste.

    There are marked similarities and vast differences which make them polar opposites.
    Ok, you have to clear something up for me here. How is government not the ruling caste in a communist model?

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    No one seems to have given much consideration to what the 'Far Right' would bring to the table in terms of racial equality, or lack of...

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    Re: Which extreme is more dangerous to America?

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    No one seems to have given much consideration to what the 'Far Right' would bring to the table in terms of racial equality, or lack of...

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    That is an unfair statement. Racism exists on both sides of aisle and to imply that it is a principle of the far right is disingenuine, at best. Not to mention that the left is dependent upon a lack of racial equality in order to keep the black vote.

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