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    Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing them

    Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing them? This is pretty much a simple yes or no question.



    I say yes they should they themselves read the bills before signing them,not hire a speed reader and not higher someone else to read the bill. I didn't vote for a speed reader or some staff members to do the job of someone who is supposed to be our employees.



    Personally I also think those who author amendments and bills should be forced to read out loud word for word what they author in front of a tv camera and then explain in front of a tv camera in laymans terms not rat lawyer speak what the bill or amendment does and why we need it. This would cut down on the bills the size of encyclopedias because I am sure no one wants to sit there for several days to read out loud a several hundred or couple thousand page bill.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    I dunno, politicians have other stuff to do than to read bills.
    It'd kinda leave them no time for other kinds of work.
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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    How would you ever hope to enforce this?

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I dunno, politicians have other stuff to do than to read bills.
    It'd kinda leave them no time for other kinds of work.
    Well as it is Congress's job to write and pass law, I would fully expect that they do their job and know what it is that they are passing. If it means that it slows down the process, good. The less laws coming out of Congress, the better usually. I don't want them voting by the title of something, or some cliff notes given to them by their staff. They need to know what it is that they are voting on, what it says, and the ramifications of passing such a law. If it means no more 100+ page laws....good! I fully expect those who wield the power and sovereignty of the People to do their job in full, with full competency and understanding of their actions. If they cannot do this, then they can't be a legislature.
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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    How would you ever hope to enforce this?
    We can require a time line between when the bill and amendments were authored depending on the number of pages and this could be based on what it takes the average citizen to read that number of pages and when they sign for them. This would at least ensure they had appropriate time to read the bill and amendments added to that bill. Ban politicians from using other people to read bills for them,I voted for the politician to do his job not for him to pay someone else to do it for him. Require the politicians to sign a sworn statement expressing why they voted for against or refused to voted.
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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Not only that, but if it is found that a law or policy is not constitutionally protected and any economic damage is provable coming from it, all voting yea should be held economically culpable with no loss cap.
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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    I vote yes. They should most definitley read them. This would cut down the number of bills drastically, it would prevent political deniability like the vote for the Patriot Act, that many admitted not reading, and it would create accountability to the people, as legislators would have to openly explain why they are calling for such a bill.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    The simplest way to enforce such a rule would be this:

    Let's say some piece of gargantuan legislation sails through Congress with hardly any debate, and only afterwards does the press pick up on some horrible horrible amendment which was included that legalizes the consumption of infants less than 6 days old.

    The press, astonished, then starts demanding of this or that Congresscritter why on Earth they voted for the legalization of cannibalism.

    The Congresscritter, relying on a time-tested defense, cries out, "I DIDN'T READ THE BILL" or "I DIDN"T SEE THAT IN THE BILL" or "I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!"

    The reporter nods, thanks the Congresscritter, and steps out of the way while the critter in question is arrested.

    Ta da!

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing them? This is pretty much a simple yes or no question.



    I say yes they should they themselves read the bills before signing them,not hire a speed reader and not higher someone else to read the bill. I didn't vote for a speed reader or some staff members to do the job of someone who is supposed to be our employees.



    Personally I also think those who author amendments and bills should be forced to read out loud word for word what they author in front of a tv camera and then explain in front of a tv camera in laymans terms not rat lawyer speak what the bill or amendment does and why we need it. This would cut down on the bills the size of encyclopedias because I am sure no one wants to sit there for several days to read out loud a several hundred or couple thousand page bill.

    Will Congress Read Bills Before Voting? - Political Hotsheet - CBS News


    Let Freedom Ring | News | EDITORIAL: Passing unread laws
    Yes, they should have to read the entire thing, every page, with their own eyes before voting on it.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    .........
    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I dunno, politicians have other stuff to do than to read bills.
    It'd kinda leave them no time for other kinds of work.
    Exactly.

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