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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Who in their right mind signs something before reading it? It is idiotic. The bills the politicians sign will affect American lives directly. They have the duty to actually read what is in a bill before they pass it. The notion that doing so is too much of a hassle is absurd. That is what politicians are paid for. We pay their salaries. They owe it to us to read the bills.

    At the very least, politicians should have a chance to read the bills if they want to. Nobody in the House read the Cap and Trade bill because it was rushed through so quickly. Hundreds of pages were added at 3AM the morning of the vote. Nobody read the Stimulus package.

    I dunno, politicians have other stuff to do than to read bills.
    It'd kinda leave them no time for other kinds of work.
    Other work? Like what? Campaign for their re-election? Have an affair in Argentina? Operate a gay prostitution ring in their basement?
    Last edited by Lakryte; 07-14-09 at 03:43 PM.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Yes they should read every line for the sake of the people!
    There is a popular Chinese maxim: "The hat is good, the shoes are good. However, if you put the hat on your feet, and the shoes on your head, then both become useless."

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Eh. Limit each bill to 5 pages. And require a debate of 20 minutes per bill and a maximum of 5 bills passed per day. Prior to the debate, a mandatory reading session of another 20 minutes for each bill. And read the bills out loud.

    Simple bills. Mandatory reading and debate. Out loud. On Cspan.
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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Eh. Limit each bill to 5 pages. And require a debate of 20 minutes per bill and a maximum of 5 bills passed per day. Prior to the debate, a mandatory reading session of another 20 minutes for each bill. And read the bills out loud.

    Simple bills. Mandatory reading and debate. Out loud. On Cspan.and force the general public to watch and listen and learn ???That would be a new one...
    Quite good ideas....you must be a closet liberal.....
    None of this is possible.....
    We need law-makers who know a little about "economy of operation"...and RESPECT....
    The entire system is in need of reform...

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Eh. Limit each bill to 5 pages. And require a debate of 20 minutes per bill and a maximum of 5 bills passed per day. Prior to the debate, a mandatory reading session of another 20 minutes for each bill. And read the bills out loud.

    Simple bills. Mandatory reading and debate. Out loud. On Cspan.
    I think the politicians should be forced to read the bills and or the amendments they author out loud as well as explain it in layman's terms why we need in front of a tv camera and the other politicians should read the bills before voting for or against them and explain on why they voted for or against or why they took the chicken **** route of abstaining on tv. That said no one should be forced to watch it. The idea behind is to have volunteer groups,watchdog groups and opposing parties watch and record various clips so that the politician has the fear that he or she will metaphorically be hanged by his own words if they do something they shouldn't have. This would make the bills shorter since no one wants to stand there and read bills the size of dictionaries or a collection of encyclopedias. This would also eliminate a lot of unrelated spending and pork since no one would be able to sneak anything in since they would have to read out loud in front of the whole world.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    No, it wouldn't work. Good idea though.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    No. Unenforceable, unrealistic, and cripples the legislative branch.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    To a point, I agree.
    But they should learn how to write a bill that is readable, without extraneous wording. Take some lessions from our founding fathers...
    Some of our incredibly well known Founding Fathers could not write without including various amounts of distinctions and exceptions. Many of whom were also trained in the law, which from a distanced perspective, seems to breed awareness of complications in these matters.
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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No. Unenforceable, unrealistic, and cripples the legislative branch.
    If they're passing bills without reading them, they're not doing their job and they should be crippled.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    If they're passing bills without reading them, they're not doing their job and they should be crippled.
    Thus causing imbalance in the branches, leading to a discouraged and irritated American public seemingly confused with Congressional inability to efficiently legislate and govern.

    Really, it sounds great, but this is why we have staffers.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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