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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    No it would not be even possible to read tens or hundreds of thousands of pages.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No it would not be even possible to read tens or hundreds of thousands of pages.
    That's the point!

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    That's the point!
    Good line but some laws such as the budget are going to be long. There also is the question of what is the role of a "representative?" Does everyone in Congress need to be a lawyer? What about the large amount of technical language including scientific that bills will contain? It would seem better for someone in Congress to have someone who actually understands the topic to read it and then explain it in language the representative can understand.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    How would you ever hope to enforce this?
    You can't. But most laws have crappy enforcement. But it will prevent the times where some dip**** politician claims to have "not known" something was in a bill. Really? Here's your fine.
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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    I think this law makes about as much sense as requiring parents to read to their kids (this is a Florida law).

    Really? If we have to force you by law to do this stuff, why even be there? Why get elected? Why become a parent?

    Plus, there is simply no way to enforce it.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Sounds great in theory, but you presume that most members of Congress can read to begin with. Judging by the idiocies that are known to come from those fairly useless holes in the middle of their faces, I'd say the majority of politicians are functional illiterates.

    Better course would be restricting bills to single items. No more omnibus spending bills or earmark amendments that have nothing to do with the original purpose of the legislation. Simply bills, shorten bills, then write them in crayon so the folks in Congress are comfortable reading them.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Enforcement should be pretty simple, if not to actually read the bill, then to at least be present while it's read.

    Schedule a reading, require absolute silence in the Hall, and make presence for the entire reading mandatory to vote.

    This is the sort of requirement we place on students, Congress should be able to live up to it.

    People will of course say that such a requirment will never be implimented. It certainly won't.

    Unless we demand it.
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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Plus, there is simply no way to enforce it.
    It's self-enforcing -- no politician will ever again publicly claim that they "didn't know" about something in a bill without there being a direct consequence, and if they refuse to claim ignorance we can hold them responsible for their votes.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No it would not be even possible to read tens or hundreds of thousands of pages.
    Then they shouldn't make dictionary or encyclopedia size bills if it is too difficult for them to read.
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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I dunno, politicians have other stuff to do than to read bills.
    It'd kinda leave them no time for other kinds of work.
    To a point, I agree.
    But they should learn how to write a bill that is readable, without extraneous wording. Take some lessions from our founding fathers...

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