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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by BoyKagome View Post
    James no how could you! Did you just suggest that the congress and senate should work for the people instead of it control the people?
    I am merely suggesting that those in office do their damn job. It doesn't matter if its a democracy or some other system that use elected officials or a group of people who vote to pass bills, it is their job to read what they are they signing for.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    No one uses "I didn't read it" now, they say things like "I thought it would turn out differently" or some other bs statement,
    Wait, what? I've heard that a bunch of times in the last year or two.

    Please don't make me go look them up.

    Do a little searching and you'll see a provision like this would be useful for holding legislators responsible for what they do while in office.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Wait, what? I've heard that a bunch of times in the last year or two.

    Please don't make me go look them up.

    Do a little searching and you'll see a provision like this would be useful for holding legislators responsible for what they do while in office.
    Well I have never heard that in a campaign, if they do say it then it only makes them look stupid so what's your point?

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    It doesn't matter weather or not we demand them to read the bills or what kind of law we try to get implemented as such a law would never make it past the Congress. Why would they vote in something that would be detrimental to them?
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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It doesn't matter weather or not we demand them to read the bills or what kind of law we try to get implemented as such a law would never make it past the Congress. Why would they vote in something that would be detrimental to them?
    Finally someone that has common sense.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Finally someone that has common sense.
    As Caine point out the question is not "Will politicians ever pass a law requiring them read the bill before voting for it?" The question is "Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing it?" The key word here is "Should" as in "must or or obliged to to", while "WILL" is referred to as in to decide on or choose. Do you see the difference? Its like asking "Should federal government legalize marijuana for recreational use?" vs "Will the federal government legalize marijuana for recreational use?" One is asking should they and the other is asking will they."Should" and "will" are two different things. In other words the poll question is not asking do you think those in office will ever make a law requiring them to actually read the bills before signing them. So it is not you or the 7 other people who voted no that have common sense,it is the 57 people who voted yes and have some comprehension of what words mean(unless they actually voted no because they do not think politicians should be required by law to actually read the bill,not because they do not think it will ever happen) that have common sense.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    As Caine point out the question is not "Will politicians ever pass a law requiring them read the bill before voting for it?" The question is "Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing it?" The key word here is "Should" as in "must or or obliged to to", while "WILL" is referred to as in to decide on or choose. Do you see the difference? Its like asking "Should federal government legalize marijuana for recreational use?" vs "Will the federal government legalize marijuana for recreational use?" One is asking should they and the other is asking will they."Should" and "will" are two different things. In other words the poll question is not asking do you think those in office will ever make a law requiring them to actually read the bills before signing them. So it is not you or the 7 other people who voted no that have common sense,it is the 57 people who voted yes and have some comprehension of what words mean(unless they actually voted no because they do not think politicians should be required by law to actually read the bill,not because they do not think it will ever happen) that have common sense.
    Ok, you obviously haven't read my points. I said numerous times I like this idea I just don't think it could be implemented...

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Ok, you obviously haven't read my points. I said numerous times I like this idea I just don't think it could be implemented...
    Your however voted no. Which suggest either you misread the question.Or you honestly believe that there should be a law requiring politicians to actually read the bills themselves before voting on them.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Your however voted no. Which suggest either you misread the question.Or you honestly believe that there should be a law requiring politicians to actually read the bills themselves before voting on them.
    I voted no because I don't think questions should be posed that ask about things that can't be done. It's my way of protesting.

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    Re: Should politicians be required by law to read the bill themselves before signing

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    I voted no because I don't think questions should be posed that ask about things that can't be done. It's my way of protesting.
    Oh jesus christ.

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