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    Re: Would You Support a Second Stimulus Package?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nope, I'd rather have a stimulus bill with some wasteful spending than no stimulus at all.
    Right, this time the bill will consist mostly of “stimulus-inducing-spending” instead of that other kind of spending.

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    Re: Would You Support a Second Stimulus Package?

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe View Post
    Somewhere along the way this point got lost. Now the government is expected to fill in all the gaps in our lives. It's quite sad, really.
    This is exactly my thought. We have a vast majority of people in this country who are capable of taking care of themselves, but they are forced to take care of people who are too lazy, physically and mentally, to make anything out of their own lives.

    Not only is it sad, its really quite pathetic.

    I hope this next stimulus does get considered by the White House, it will push so many more people to the right.
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    Re: Would You Support a Second Stimulus Package?

    I am against it, as are 60% of Americans.

    Hopefully Congess won't be so stupid as to actually pass something their consitutents so are so broadly against. A second stimulus would be the end of the Democratic-controlled Congress.

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    Re: Would You Support a Second Stimulus Package?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I did not support the second stimulus, but it went through anyway, and even though neither of them worked, Obama now wants a 3rd stimulus.

    You can't spend your way out of a recession: This is another reason why you weren't supposed to vote for Obama.
    Jerry aren't you being a tad premature? no one is suggesting its an instantaneous fix. I have read many economists suggest it can take a few years to see the effects, good or bad.
    Europe is in the midst of disaster, only, they do not realize.

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    Re: Would You Support a Second Stimulus Package?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    No, because economists say so. You really should research economics more than just reading the drivel Krugman posts in the New York Times.
    I have an MBA. You?

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    The US was attacked. War came to America, not the other way around. The demand for soldiers was due to an external event (Pearl Harbor) not some militancy of the US government. The demand for weapons and war material was due to Britain's war with Germany and was greatly increased by Pearl Harbor.

    WWII was not an artificial stimulus, but a natural expansion of the need for government spending. War and blowing people to tiny bits are the main reasons we keep governments around.
    The reasons for the stimulus doesn't change the fact that it WAS a stimulus. Massive government spending is going to stimulate the economy. Who the hell CARES whether "war came to America" or how "militant" the US government was? That is in no way relevant to the economics of it. Do you think the economic effect of WWII would have been any different if we had attacked Japan first? Do you think the justness of our cause had anything at all to do with the economic effects? Let's not forget that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan ALSO had booming economies as a result of their massive government spending.
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    Re: Would You Support a Second Stimulus Package?

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Jerry aren't you being a tad premature? no one is suggesting its an instantaneous fix. I have read many economists suggest it can take a few years to see the effects, good or bad.
    Why is this recession so different from the others in that it is supposed to last a few years? Why wouldn't the economy recover on its own in that time?

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    Re: Would You Support a Second Stimulus Package?

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Jerry aren't you being a tad premature? no one is suggesting its an instantaneous fix. I have read many economists suggest it can take a few years to see the effects, good or bad.
    What the hell do economists know? Where were their crystal balls before the collapse of the housing industry and the financial sector? These nitwits couldn't predict their way out of a wet paper bag.

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    Re: Would You Support a Second Stimulus Package?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Why is this recession so different from the others in that it is supposed to last a few years? Why wouldn't the economy recover on its own in that time?
    Perhaps the enormity of the crash?

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    Re: Would You Support a Second Stimulus Package?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I believe the term you are looking for is the "New Deal". If you call ten years of crippling depression a successful stimulus plan then you need to reference a dictionary. Allow me to be of assistance:

    Successful:

    1. Having a favorable outcome.

    2. Having obtained something desired or intended.


    So, is that your desired outcome? Ten years of depression?
    We didn't have ten years of Depression. We had four years of Depression under Hoover, and the economy bottomed out almost immediately after the New Deal began. (June/July 1933 was the bottom.) Then we had a successful stimulus program for several years, during which the economy boomed. And in 1936, FDR decided that the Depression was over and reversed some of his spending...which was followed by another brief recession. This, of course, was followed by several more years of massive spending and a booming economy as we prepared for WWII.

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    The American buildup to WWII was not a government stimulus plan.
    Really. How was it not a stimulus?
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    Re: Would You Support a Second Stimulus Package?

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Perhaps the enormity of the crash?

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    There is no evidence that this crash is going to last any longer than all the other crashes in history.

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