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Religion

Which (if any) religion do you adhere to/practice?

  • Christianity (Catholic, protestant, unitarian, etc.)

    Votes: 18 24.0%

  • Islam

    Votes: 2 2.7%

  • Hinduism

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Buddhism

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • Sikhism

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Judaism

    Votes: 2 2.7%

  • Baha'i

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Shinto

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other (Specify if you would like)

    Votes: 12 16.0%

  • Nonreligious (Athiest, agnostic)

    Votes: 40 53.3%
  • Total voters
    75
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
[drivel]
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You haven't been doing so well in your replies to that thread, either, actually, and I'll perhaps stop the nature of your yapping in my next reply. But I've offered you a very good reason for engaging me in a True Debate about socialism, that being that I will stop commenting about it on this forum if you defeat me, with the stipulation that you do the same (though we'd of course be bound by nothing more than the honor system, which I can adhere to). If my posts about socialism are purely irrational, then defeating me in a short-term debate will ensure a long-term end of much economic irrationality from me. :2wave:

EDIT: Two more things, Scarecrow. Firstly, "emancipation" is the name of the formal legal process by which minors can gain many adult rights prior to reaching the age of majority. It's not a name I made up to give my proposal a "civil rights" appeal. Secondly, I seem to have beaten you quite thoroughly in an extensive abortion debate we had a few months back, so you may want to consider your comments about my irrationality. :cool:
 
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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Oh, you mean a religion is based on imagination, unprovable yet illogical axioms, persistent insistence on devout application of faith to smooth over the illogical parts, and declamations of blasphemy and idolatry to all who stray from the official line that comes straight from the deity?

That certainly applies to Marx, Gaia, and the Messiah.
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Look who's arguing for the sake of arguing. Obviously ten options isn't going to cover the entire world. I mean, you could have just clicked other and had been done with it...
 
Apocalypse said:
Atheist.
But I can appreciate religion's role in mankind's history.
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Also an atheist, and while I can appreciate religion's role in man's history, just as you can, I recognize that the time for such things ought to be coming to an end, there simply is no rational, reasonable purpose to religion today, it's an entirely emotional security blanket for which there is no objective evidence and which serves no intellectual purpose.

We can get absolutely everything demonstrably good we get from religion from purely secular means. It's time for mankind to grow up and get a grip on factual reality. Fantasy play time is just about over.
 
Cephus said:
Also an atheist, and while I can appreciate religion's role in man's history, just as you can, I recognize that the time for such things ought to be coming to an end, there simply is no rational, reasonable purpose to religion today, it's an entirely emotional security blanket for which there is no objective evidence and which serves no intellectual purpose.

We can get absolutely everything demonstrably good we get from religion from purely secular means. It's time for mankind to grow up and get a grip on factual reality. Fantasy play time is just about over.
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It's just funny how you can post the same generalized statement in every thread regarding "religion" no matter what aspect of religion is being discussed, and still maintain that you are the one using "logic." the regurgitated buzz phrases always seem so fresh when you repeat them!

ceremony, fellowship, symbols, mythological perspectives, moral codes, ... none of this has any purpose. there is no objective evidence that any of this is reasonably applicable, true, or of any use, despite reams of evidence. mmm'kay. you've read the evidence, but you misunderstood it. you took away only what you wanted to hear.

but, meanwhile, the question asked was about you.
 
Gibberish said:
I don't practice anything specifically but If I have to be labeled I would fall under Unitarian.

If you've never been to a Unitarian Universalist church I would highly recommend it. It's great to see Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, etc. come under one roof and discuss the similarities between their specific religious interpretations of the same god.
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Despite the poll, it seems like Unitarian Universalist isn't exactly Christian, but more of an agnostic or postmodern theism.

Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Oh, you mean a religion is based on imagination, unprovable yet illogical axioms, persistent insistence on devout application of faith to smooth over the illogical parts, and declamations of blasphemy and idolatry to all who stray from the official line that comes straight from the deity?

That certainly applies to Marx, Gaia, and the Messiah.
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Religion in this sense is based upon the supernatural. I think that's the key distinction between religion and philosophy.
 
This wasn't my poll, but I admit that I think it is a wonderful thing that there are such a wide array of religions represented on this forum. Where else can you get atheists, post modern theists, agnostics, christians, pagans, shamans, or whatever, all together in one place to discuss topics and the problems of this world? Wonderful.
 
I think it's a fascinating thing that over half of the voters in this poll are non-religious.
It shows that religion grows weaker and weaker with the years.

Well, at least among those with an access to the internet.
 
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Apocalypse said:
I think it's a fascinating thing that over half of the voters in this poll are atheists.
It shows that religion grows weaker and weaker with the years.

Well, at least among those with an access to the internet.
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An evil tool of the Devil!!!:cool:
 
Catholic, but more spiritual than religious. I enjoy the ceremonies of the Catholic church but despise the hypocracy of all of the major practicioners of any given religion, so I take the lessons learned from the experience to shape my path, but do not judge others who follow a differing path, as long as they do so in peace.
 
Agnapostate said:
You haven't been doing so well in your replies to that thread, either, actually,
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It's not like I wasted a whole heap of time researching the six-bit words you employ instead of english, but I did just fine, since it doesn't take any complex calculations to determine that anyone seriously advocating the "emancipation" of ten year olds doesn't function on logic.
 
LiveUninhibited said:
Religion in this sense is based upon the supernatural. I think that's the key distinction between religion and philosophy.
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Nothing more supernatural than socialism. It's completely unnatural, in fact.

No, the key essence of religion is the denial of truth in favor of dogma.
 
niftydrifty said:
It's just funny how you can post the same generalized statement in every thread regarding "religion" no matter what aspect of religion is being discussed, and still maintain that you are the one using "logic." the regurgitated buzz phrases always seem so fresh when you repeat them!
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It has nothing to do with being fresh, only with being accurate which it still is.
 
OxymoronP said:
Where are all the other Shamanist/Pagans on here?
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Sorry I'm late. I've been nursing a headache.

I'm an eclectic Norse Pagan. This is to say, that I am first and foremost a Norse Pagan who has adopted some elements of other traditions into his practice, not that I am a member of some other faith who uses Norse trappings to appeal to some vague sense of tradition. In particular, I am exploring the similarities between Confucian and Norse ethics and Taoist cosmological beliefs as a way of understanding the coexistence of the various gods and heavens and hells of all of Earth's religions.
 
Sanitas said:
I'm simply curious the religious break up of DP. The poll only allows 10 options so I apologize if I left yours out. Also, I'm keeping the poll private for those who do not wish to disclose their religious background.
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Im more agnostic.

I believe that there may be a diety (or multiple), but I disagree that our current religious institutions are doing the right thing when it comes to having faith in them.

Nor can I continue to follow age old man made religious texts that most likely have changed over time for the political convenience of select power groups.
 
Apocalypse said:
I think it's a fascinating thing that over half of the voters in this poll are non-religious.
It shows that religion grows weaker and weaker with the years.

Well, at least among those with an access to the internet.
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This forum is hardly typical of the world, or America, or even the Internet as a whole.

Depending on whose poll you believe, somewhere around 70-80% of Americans self-identify as Christian. Most of the rest identify with some particular religion. Those who identify as Atheist are a tiny minority.
 
Apocalypse said:
I think it's a fascinating thing that over half of the voters in this poll are non-religious.
It shows that religion grows weaker and weaker with the years.

Well, at least among those with an access to the internet.
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Lol, maybe on the forum and yes in Europe, agnostics and atheists are on a stark rise but in US. The religious still reign supreme
 
Laila said:
Lol, maybe on the forum and yes in Europe, agnostics and atheists are on a stark rise but in US. The religious still reign supreme
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Yeah, but Atheism is clearly on the raise and will continue to raise with the years.
There's hope for a better future. :2razz:
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
It's not like I wasted a whole heap of time researching the six-bit words you employ instead of english, but I did just fine, since it doesn't take any complex calculations to determine that anyone seriously advocating the "emancipation" of ten year olds doesn't function on logic.
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That's unsound as hell. Declaring certain proposals or ideologies "illogical" without actual logical examination or consideration is itself illogical, and the basis for many ancient rejections of theories or doctrines now regarded as scientific truth, such as the heliocentric theory. :shrug:
 
Agnapostate said:
That's unsound as hell. Declaring certain proposals or ideologies "illogical" without actual logical examination or consideration is itself illogical, and the basis for many ancient rejections of theories or doctrines now regarded as scientific truth, such as the heliocentric theory. :shrug:
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Works perfectly.

You're not denying the dogmatic nonsense you post fits any established logical framework, are you? You might, but you can't state your axioms to justify the uses of force your scams require, and hence you're firmly in the religious category.

My axiom?

People don't own people.

EVERYTHING I say follows logically from that.

The heliocentric theory is substantiated by observation.

Socialism is denied by observation. Hence astronomy is a science, socialism is a religion. Would you care to name the man that provided the first conclusive proof of the heliocentric theory, and that proof was?
 
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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
[more drivel]
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Please confine this to the "libertarian socialism" thread, unless you are interested in finally accepting my offer. If you do and you are able to defeat me, then you'll of course expect an end to all comments about socialism from me on this forum. Since they are so irrational and illogical, after all, why not endure a tiny bit of toil in order to prevent the presumable irritation that my long-term posts about socialism will provide for you? :2wave:
 
I have always been Atheist. I see no reason to believe in a god.

I went to a Catholic elementary school where I was taught religion and science (including evolution) side-by-side. I made my choice then. I believe this is the way it should be done for everyone, but not required religion classes in public schools. The religion classes in public school should be electives, but at least offered.
 
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