View Poll Results: Which (if any) religion do you adhere to/practice?

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  • Christianity (Catholic, protestant, unitarian, etc.)

    20 21.98%
  • Islam

    2 2.20%
  • Hinduism

    1 1.10%
  • Buddhism

    1 1.10%
  • Sikhism

    0 0%
  • Judaism

    4 4.40%
  • Baha'i

    0 0%
  • Shinto

    0 0%
  • Other (Specify if you would like)

    13 14.29%
  • Nonreligious (Athiest, agnostic)

    50 54.95%
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    Re: Religion

    I was raised a Christian. I wandered through Buddhism. Now I am just a man.

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    Atheist. But to give a little history, I was baptized and raised as a Roman Catholic, and had my First Communion, but was never confirmed. Then I switched to Protestantism for several years, becoming an evangelical/born again Christian but harboring more fundamentalist inclinations that were really equivalent to Old Testament Reconstructionism a la [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousas_John_Rushdoony"]Rousas John Rushdoony[/ame]. Publicly, I was a friendly social conservative, doing nothing more malevolent than protesting at abortion clinics and writing letters to Senator Boxer opposing Gavin Newsom's gay marriage "stunt." Privately, I had an interest in the criminalization of homosexuality, fornication, and adultery, crimes that I favored the death penalty for. In the back of my mind, however, I always had a suspicion that God was nonexistent, a suspicion that I then attributed to the machinations of Satan, and pacified myself by thinking of Pascal's Wager (which I thought of independently) and the statistical improbability of human life forming without deliberate and conscious design, which I'd been led to believe was around 1 in 1,000,000,000...(23 more zeros or so). However, I was expelled from the parochial school I was attending (which was affiliated with my church) because of a dispute with a teacher (in addition to about twelve suspensions and numerous other detentions, lol) and bringing The Da Vinci Code and The Origin of Species to school, I distanced myself from my faith somewhat, the final nail in the coffin being when I brought more information about the theory of evolution to church as well as a Catholic Bible, which of course contained the Apocrypha. Then I started to get into textual criticism of the New Testament, and discovered the inauthenticity of several major passaged and books, and became a religious pluralist of sorts, then an agnostic theist, then a pure agnostic, and finally an agnostic atheist. It's been quite a ride.

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    Spiritual, not religious.




    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Oh, you mean a religion is based on imagination, unprovable yet illogical axioms, persistent insistence on devout application of faith to smooth over the illogical parts, and declamations of blasphemy and idolatry to all who stray from the official line that comes straight from the deity?

    That certainly applies to Marx...
    The idea that Marx represents the entirety of socialist thought itself reveals the nature of your ignorance of political economy, particularly since he primarily wrote on capitalism. That said, I see that you've ignored my offer to a True Debate about socialism. If my position is so ridiculously illogical, why the odd silence?

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    Yeah, I'm a less perky, less Jesus loving version of that dude. Also, I hate f'ing hippies.

    However, your post does explain the whole boy scout thing.

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    As it were, the letter to Barbara Boxer that condemned homosexuals as sinners was for a merit badge requirement, IIRC. I never got to speak to her in person, but I think I was taller than her even at age 12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    The idea that Marx represents the entirety of socialist thought itself reveals the nature of your ignorance of political economy, particularly since he primarily wrote on capitalism. That said, I see that you've ignored my offer to a True Debate about socialism. If my position is so ridiculously illogical, why the odd silence?
    Socialism is an emotional state, not a rational state. No rational person could buy that nonsense.

    Yes, I ignored your offer for "True Debate". No one that can seriously post that small children should be allowed to be "emancipated" can be taken seriously at any level. And, since you already lose all arguments you get involved in, what's the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No one that can seriously post that small children should be allowed to be "emancipated" can be taken seriously at any level.
    Wow. You're totally pwning on the whole logic thing, aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    [drivel]
    You haven't been doing so well in your replies to that thread, either, actually, and I'll perhaps stop the nature of your yapping in my next reply. But I've offered you a very good reason for engaging me in a True Debate about socialism, that being that I will stop commenting about it on this forum if you defeat me, with the stipulation that you do the same (though we'd of course be bound by nothing more than the honor system, which I can adhere to). If my posts about socialism are purely irrational, then defeating me in a short-term debate will ensure a long-term end of much economic irrationality from me.

    EDIT: Two more things, Scarecrow. Firstly, "emancipation" is the name of the formal legal process by which minors can gain many adult rights prior to reaching the age of majority. It's not a name I made up to give my proposal a "civil rights" appeal. Secondly, I seem to have beaten you quite thoroughly in an extensive abortion debate we had a few months back, so you may want to consider your comments about my irrationality.
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    Re: Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Oh, you mean a religion is based on imagination, unprovable yet illogical axioms, persistent insistence on devout application of faith to smooth over the illogical parts, and declamations of blasphemy and idolatry to all who stray from the official line that comes straight from the deity?

    That certainly applies to Marx, Gaia, and the Messiah.
    Look who's arguing for the sake of arguing. Obviously ten options isn't going to cover the entire world. I mean, you could have just clicked other and had been done with it...
    "All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language...No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." - John Donne

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    Re: Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Atheist.
    But I can appreciate religion's role in mankind's history.
    Also an atheist, and while I can appreciate religion's role in man's history, just as you can, I recognize that the time for such things ought to be coming to an end, there simply is no rational, reasonable purpose to religion today, it's an entirely emotional security blanket for which there is no objective evidence and which serves no intellectual purpose.

    We can get absolutely everything demonstrably good we get from religion from purely secular means. It's time for mankind to grow up and get a grip on factual reality. Fantasy play time is just about over.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Also an atheist, and while I can appreciate religion's role in man's history, just as you can, I recognize that the time for such things ought to be coming to an end, there simply is no rational, reasonable purpose to religion today, it's an entirely emotional security blanket for which there is no objective evidence and which serves no intellectual purpose.

    We can get absolutely everything demonstrably good we get from religion from purely secular means. It's time for mankind to grow up and get a grip on factual reality. Fantasy play time is just about over.
    It's just funny how you can post the same generalized statement in every thread regarding "religion" no matter what aspect of religion is being discussed, and still maintain that you are the one using "logic." the regurgitated buzz phrases always seem so fresh when you repeat them!

    ceremony, fellowship, symbols, mythological perspectives, moral codes, ... none of this has any purpose. there is no objective evidence that any of this is reasonably applicable, true, or of any use, despite reams of evidence. mmm'kay. you've read the evidence, but you misunderstood it. you took away only what you wanted to hear.

    but, meanwhile, the question asked was about you.
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