View Poll Results: What Has Influenced Your Thinking?

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  • Parents

    37 58.73%
  • Childhood Experiences

    33 52.38%
  • Tragic Events

    23 36.51%
  • Current Events

    37 58.73%
  • Rational Thought

    51 80.95%
  • Friends/Lovers

    26 41.27%
  • Other

    37 58.73%
  • Nothing

    2 3.17%
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Isn't it ironic that they are the ones yelling "Partisan! Partisan!"? Well, they have one finger pointed at us, and 3 fingers plus an opposable thumb pointing right back at them.
    Is your thumb on backwards or is it the world's most flexible thumb?

    I just pointed my finger and no matter what I do I can't get the thumb to point back at me. It either points down or up.
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    Gowing up with a corrupt family and friends of the family........

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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Is your thumb on backwards or is it the world's most flexible thumb?

    I just pointed my finger and no matter what I do I can't get the thumb to point back at me. It either points down or up.
    If your thumb is inside your fingers when you point. Like, put your thumb across your hand, then put your fingers around it, then point with your index finger. It either points back at you or the person stading next to you depending on your hand.
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    If your thumb is inside your fingers when you point. Like, put your thumb across your hand, then put your fingers around it, then point with your index finger. It either points back at you or the person stading next to you depending on your hand.
    My thumb points at the person next to me!

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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    My thumb points at the person next to me!
    In Bush's case, that would be Cheney.
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker case View Post
    is your thumb on backwards or is it the world's most flexible thumb?

    I just pointed my finger and no matter what i do i can't get the thumb to point back at me. It either points down or up.
    Believe in yourself! Believe in the thumb!
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Perhaps I should explain further. I'm not really talking about my personal views as much as I'm talking about political views. I develop each differently.

    My personal views are undoubtedly going to be influenced to some degree by my emotions. My political views are not really influenced by my emotions.

    To give an example of what I mean:

    I am an atheist. I would have an extremely strong emotional response if I were to learn that my child's school district was considering setting aside a certain time of the school day for prayer, I would do whatever I could to oppose this and prevent it from occurring.

    At the same time, if I lost that fight, and the majority of people in that district decided that there should be this set aside time, I would not seek to remove the rule in an action that ran counter to the majority opinion on it. While I would have sought to change the views of the majority, I would not seek to force my minority views upon the majority. Even though my own feelings on the matter are totally opposite of theirs. I would instead find a way to place my child in a school district that did not share these rules.

    I think that the issue here is that my political views and my personal views are not always in line with each other.
    Actually your views seem very consistant. Often a person's religious or non-religious views conflict with the state. And even the Bible tells Christians to "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's".

    You are simply taking the position that while you may very well work to change a policy, you will deal with existing policy in the meantime.

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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I think the best way to describe it is "All of the above mitigated by rational thought".

    To imply that any of those things have not had some degree of influence is absurd. Btu I like to think that I have rationally thought out my positions so that they are not dictated by those events alone.
    Christ, your a mod now??

    I was just wondering why everyone thinks specifically what they think. Have recent events changed your thinking? Have your parents influenced you? Did a defining childhood event change you? Or have you just thought about your views as you've gone along?

    What do you think the way you do?
    Selecting rational thought is just stupid. Our beliefs is what we THINK is rational. We all intepret being rational differently, and by nature our beliefs are what we think is right and rational, so rational thinking is our default view anyway. You'd need opinions and knowledge from all oppositions before you can honestly claim you are being "rational" when drafting your own conclusion, and to do so you need friends and just general people to get other views from. It only takes one person to shift the way you think. So im going to go for Friends, as personally, in my life, thats whats changed my views the most out of anything.
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Actually your views seem very consistant. Often a person's religious or non-religious views conflict with the state. And even the Bible tells Christians to "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's".

    You are simply taking the position that while you may very well work to change a policy, you will deal with existing policy in the meantime.
    It's not quite that simple.

    If the policy were in Kentucky, I wouldn't work to change it because I'm not in Kentucky.

    If the policy were to come to exist here in Illinois, I wouldn't try to change it. I would have tried to prevent it from existing by changing the minds of those who support it, but if the majority speaks and it is against my wishes, I would not place my wishes above theirs.

    Conversely, if a policy runs in keeping with my opinion, but it runs contrary to the majority opinion.

    It's far more complicated than "when in Rome".

    And all of that is predicated on it being the local majority, not a national majority. I oppose pretty much all legislation of this sort on the national level so that local regions can dictate for themselves what they prefer. This keeps the largest proportion of the population happy at any given time.
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    What are you talking about? He stated his opinion that the way he was taught about religion directed him towards liberalism.

    He stated that conservatism goes towards greed, which is true. Free Market, which is one of the basis of conservatism, gives itself up to enormous corporations which hold monopolies on everything imaginable.

    Same goes for twisted and corrupt. No regulation, ie free market, means corruption, hence stopping regulation from being put in place.

    Don't simply ignore something because you don't like it, or disagree with it. Do that too much, and you will look very stupid.


    Son, there's a lot of assumptions in there. Whether free-market capitalism automatically leads to corporatism is a subject of debate. I tend to think that State interference in the free market, in favor of large corporations (like we've just seen with the stimulus) is what causes corporatism and monopoly, not simply capitalism itself.

    In reality you almost never find a "pure" example of any political or economic ideology. An UTTERLY unregulated free market will probably never exist, and even I agree on certain bare minimums of regulation...say about 1/100'th what we've got. In a free market, consumer choice and competition will often bring down corrupt corps alone, as long as we don't permit monopoly.

    I'm ignoring him not because I don't wish to consider what he is saying, but because I considered it 16 times in the past 30 years...it was BS the first time I heard it, and it is still BS. I'm old enough that I no longer suffer fools gladly.



    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991
    99.9% of the worlds scientists using the finest technology say there is man-made climate change and we'd better change our ways.
    That is a lie. A bald-faced lie. For one thing, most meterologists are dubious at best about man-made global warming. Do they not count as scientists? This 99.9 percent is an outragous falsehood. Even if it were so, and it isn't, there was a time when 99.9% of scientists believed in Ether and a preferred absolute reference frame...Einstein and Michealson/Morely blew that out of the water.


    Not only is he a troll, he's a lying troll.




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