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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by Australianlibertarian View Post
    Mmmmm, I have applied logic and reason and I am an atheist and a libertarian....

    If you start off with different assumptions or a different premise, then logic and reason will lead to different outcomes. Therefore, I am not entirely sure how you can claim that logic and rationalism ultimately leads to American-modern-liberalism (in contrast to classic liberalism) as opposed to any other mode of political thought.....
    My post was slightly tongue in cheek because some goober a few posts before mine had basically stated that anyone with liberal views who were against torture were debased, immoral cowards.

    That no one took him to task while several questioned me is quite illuminating.

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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Obviously you haven't used logic and reason when you posted this comment.
    Obviously you didn't use it when you posted your reply.
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Ultra-partisan-hack troll. In brief, ignore.
    What are you talking about? He stated his opinion that the way he was taught about religion directed him towards liberalism.

    He stated that conservatism goes towards greed, which is true. Free Market, which is one of the basis of conservatism, gives itself up to enormous corporations which hold monopolies on everything imaginable.

    Same goes for twisted and corrupt. No regulation, ie free market, means corruption, hence stopping regulation from being put in place.

    Don't simply ignore something because you don't like it, or disagree with it. Do that too much, and you will look very stupid.
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsavich View Post
    "Billy-Bob" Gets that measure because disallowing him it would invalidate all scientific progress we have made on it. As you said, if it is a matter of facts then one is riht and one is wrong. But neither authority nor majority make truth- especially when it comes to scientific ideas,
    You make sense in the last parts of your post, but the first part is nonsense! You're saying the layman idiot is more important in matters of science then the scientist himself? You're saying the idiot is smarter then the genius? What on earth are you doing?????
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    You forgot the study of history modern and ancient.
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    My post was slightly tongue in cheek because some goober a few posts before mine had basically stated that anyone with liberal views who were against torture were debased, immoral cowards.

    That no one took him to task while several questioned me is quite illuminating.
    Isn't it ironic that they are the ones yelling "Partisan! Partisan!"? Well, they have one finger pointed at us, and 3 fingers plus an opposable thumb pointing right back at them.
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    You forgot the study of history modern and ancient.
    I thought that could go under rational thought.
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I thought that could go under rational thought.
    Quite a broad brush to paint with I guess.
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Quite a broad brush to paint with I guess.
    The broader the more simple. Instead of lots of fine strokes, just a few big ones. It's my lack of artistic ability
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    Re: What Has Influenced Your Views?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwendoline View Post
    For me, I probably prefer to "acknowledge" rather than reject my "feelings" when developing my views. Doesn't mean that the feelings will take over, just that those feelings help me to garner a bit more understanding about my own views, and why I have those views. I think that the "subjective" is still in operation / play even when we think we're being "totally" rational about things.

    Just because we "reject" feeling, doesn't mean that it's not still affecting us / affecting our views about things / on some other level that we may not be aware about.
    Perhaps I should explain further. I'm not really talking about my personal views as much as I'm talking about political views. I develop each differently.

    My personal views are undoubtedly going to be influenced to some degree by my emotions. My political views are not really influenced by my emotions.



    To give an example of what I mean:

    I am an atheist. I would have an extremely strong emotional response if I were to learn that my child's school district was considering setting aside a certain time of the school day for prayer, I would do whatever I could to oppose this and prevent it from occurring.

    At the same time, if I lost that fight, and the majority of people in that district decided that there should be this set aside time, I would not seek to remove the rule in an action that ran counter to the majority opinion on it. While I would have sought to change the views of the majority, I would not seek to force my minority views upon the majority. Even though my own feelings on the matter are totally opposite of theirs. I would instead find a way to place my child in a school district that did not share these rules.

    I think that the issue here is that my political views and my personal views are not always in line with each other.
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