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  • Legalize recreational drugs, keep PEDs illegal

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  • Legalize them both-Athletic companies may not prohibit PED use

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  • Legalize them both-Athletic companies may choose to prohibit PED use

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    Recreational drugs vs. Performance enhancing drugs

    In another thread, there was a discussion about the use of performance enhancing drugs in atheltic events. That brought to my mind a question.....

    It seems that our society is leaning towards favoring the legalization of recreational drug use, however slowly. But with regards to the use of PEDs by professional(or amatuer) athletes, there seems to almost be immediate and universal disdain for such an action.

    Where do you stand on the issue, and why?

    Poll to follow shortly.....
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    Re: Recreational drugs vs. Performance enhancing drugs

    The disdain for such an action is of course because of their usage in athletic competition, which obviously makes fans feel cheated. However, if they were legal, it obviously wouldn't be possible for a player to actually "cheat" by using them since every other player would have the same opportunity. Their status as "performance-enhancing" is irrelevant to me, as vitamins, legal supplements, and even training are "performance-enhancing in a sense"; the basis of athletic competition is centered around performance enhancement. I used to be an avid proponent of the "legalize and tax" perspective, but as I've become aware of more forms of market failure, I've become aware of more deficiencies with that. I'd say that I still broadly favor legalization, however.

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    Re: Recreational drugs vs. Performance enhancing drugs

    Legalizing performance enhancing drugs in sports would mean that athletes who do not want to harm their bodies would be at a competitive disadvantage.

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    Re: Recreational drugs vs. Performance enhancing drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    Legalizing performance enhancing drugs in sports would mean that athletes who do not want to harm their bodies would be at a competitive disadvantage.
    The most significant effects of steroids (heart damage, "roid rage") are disputed and the latter seems to be a varying effect more than anything else, and while steroids can cause increased blood pressure and cholesterol levels, those are not deficiencies that could not be alleviated to some extent by a regularly exercising athlete anyway. The possible adverse effects of human growth hormone are even less apparent. All in all, users of these substances aren't comparable to "junkies," and often use them in a well-calibrated and researched manner.

    As it is, athletes in particularly arduous sports place themselves at a higher risk of harming their bodies than the normal individual could be expected to be subject to anyway.

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    Re: Recreational drugs vs. Performance enhancing drugs

    I say let em all be legal, but I would not pay any money to any league that allowed them.,


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    Re: Recreational drugs vs. Performance enhancing drugs

    I say legalize them all,then the cops can worry about real criminals.

    I mean look at what weed and steroids did for our governor,Arnold SwartzenKennedy,then again, on second thought maybe not.
    It seems to have turned him into a real girlie man.

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    Re: Recreational drugs vs. Performance enhancing drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    The disdain for such an action is of course because of their usage in athletic competition, which obviously makes fans feel cheated. However, if they were legal, it obviously wouldn't be possible for a player to actually "cheat" by using them since every other player would have the same opportunity. I used to be an avid proponent of the "legalize and tax" perspective, but as I've become aware of more forms of market failure, I've become aware of more deficiencies with that. I'd say that I still broadly favor legalization, however.

    There are so many holes in your argument, I don't know where to begin.

    First fan feel cheated, because the athletes are cheating. Putting their health at risk for the sole purpose of making more money or breaking records. Is that what sports have become? Say you have a kid who's a great high school athlete and want to pursue it farther, but will not get anywhere without taking roids. Would you be okay with that? Especially considering the consequences of using (and this is only short-term effects):

    Reports indicate that use of anabolic steroids produces increases in lean muscle mass, strength, and ability to train longer and harder. Many health hazards of short-term effects are reversible. The major effects of anabolic steroid use include liver tumors, jaundice, fluid retention, and high blood pressure. Additional side effects include the following: for men shrinking of the testicles, reduced sperm count, infertility, baldness, development of breasts; for women growth of facial hair, changes in or cessation of the menstrual cycle, deepened voice; for adolescents growth halted prematurely through premature skeletal maturation and accelerated puberty changes. Researchers report that users may suffer from paranoid jealousy, extreme irritability, delusions, and impaired judgment stemming from feelings of invincibility
    Here's a lot more info on the ill-effects of steroids:

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroids]Anabolic steroid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


    So I ask again... would you want your kid to be pressured into taking this drug in order to pursue his athletic dream???

    Their status as "performance-enhancing" is irrelevant to me, as vitamins, legal supplements, and even training are "performance-enhancing in a sense"; the basis of athletic competition is centered around performance enhancement.
    You got to be kidding me, LOL. Vitamins???

    It's like claiming an athlete is cheating because he eats all of his veggies, LOL. Give me a break.

    They are legal, because taking extra vitamin C will not make you hit more homies.
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    Re: Recreational drugs vs. Performance enhancing drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    The most significant effects of steroids (heart damage, "roid rage") are disputed and the latter seems to be a varying effect more than anything else, and while steroids can cause increased blood pressure and cholesterol levels, those are not deficiencies that could not be alleviated to some extent by a regularly exercising athlete anyway. The possible adverse effects of human growth hormone are even less apparent. All in all, users of these substances aren't comparable to "junkies," and often use them in a well-calibrated and researched manner.

    As it is, athletes in particularly arduous sports place themselves at a higher risk of harming their bodies than the normal individual could be expected to be subject to anyway.
    Please convince me of this with facts.
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    Re: Recreational drugs vs. Performance enhancing drugs

    I think 60 minutes did an article on steroids years ago,and they said steroids is the most abused drug out there,something like 20 million kids between 14 and 18 were taking them,and a lot with their parents help.

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    Re: Recreational drugs vs. Performance enhancing drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    In another thread, there was a discussion about the use of performance enhancing drugs in atheltic events. That brought to my mind a question.....

    It seems that our society is leaning towards favoring the legalization of recreational drug use, however slowly. But with regards to the use of PEDs by professional(or amatuer) athletes, there seems to almost be immediate and universal disdain for such an action.

    Where do you stand on the issue, and why?

    Poll to follow shortly.....
    I once heard Stallone quoted in support of HGH, claiming that unless it was abused, it had no lasting negative side effects.

    Any truth to that?

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