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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Your analogies are way off the line.
    By unnatural I've meant that homosexuality prevents the couple from reproducing their genes and creating new lives.
    It is bad not simply because it is unnatural, but because it damages the circularity of life.
    So do condoms and the birth control pill. Would you vote to ban them? What's more unnatural than deliberately refusing nature's right to take its course?
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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    The circularity of life? I think human civilization abolished that a long time ago. So then you feel it is wrong or unnatural for infertile people to get married? They won't be reproducing.
    Third line in this (Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?) post.
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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    I would vote for it. And put a post script at the bottom

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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    So do condoms and the birth control pill. Would you vote to ban them? What's more unnatural than deliberately refusing nature's right to take its course?
    Does this mean we can't give her a "pearl necklace" either?
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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    So do condoms and the birth control pill. Would you vote to ban them? What's more unnatural than deliberately refusing nature's right to take its course?
    Or in other words, you completely misunderstood my position on this issue.
    I am not saying everyone should reproduce immediately or they'll be shot, I'm saying that homosexuality prevents the option to reproduce.
    But thanks for trying to understand.
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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Or in other words, you completely misunderstood my position on this issue.
    I am not saying everyone should reproduce immediately or he'll be shot, I'm saying that homosexuality prevents the option to reproduce.
    But thanks for trying to understand.
    No, I understand perfectly. Now, you riddle me this: some straight women take birth control pills their entire lives inorder to prevent EVER having children. Also, some homosexual women go to the sperm bank and actually DO reproduce. Now you tell me, according to your logic, which case fits your definition of "natural"?
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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    I would vote the same way when the issue came up in my state which is against gay marriage. That includes closet supporter of gay marriage terms like "domestic partnerships", "civil unions" and any other paper coated term for marriage.


    This asinine notion that calling it something different makes it different is a load of crap that politicians who are cowards on the issue use to try to appease both sides. If you are for gay marriage then quit fooling yourself by playing this semantics game. If you are actually against gay marriage then you shouldn't support paper coated terms like " civil unions", "domestic partnerships" or any other paper coated term for marriage. If I called a pile of dog **** a T-bone steak I can guarantee most people wouldn't eat it just because the name was changed.
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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    No, I understand perfectly. Now, you riddle me this: some straight women take birth control pills their entire lives inorder to prevent EVER having children. Also, some homosexual women go to the sperm bank and actually DO reproduce. Now you tell me, according to your logic, which case fits your definition of "natural"?
    I do not define words.
    And about your little story, I'm speaking about gay couples here, not individuals.
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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I do not define words.
    And about your little story, I'm speaking about gay couples here, not individuals.
    Nice dodge. Who said the women in my story were not part of a couple?

    Straight couples make the choice never to have children. Homosexual couples make the choice to have them.

    Which one is more natural?

    Given the enormous advances in reproductive medicine, the "unnatural" argument really doesn't hold any water anymore. People who really want children will have them and those who don't won't. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation anymore.
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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Nice dodge.
    Why thank you.
    Who said the women in my story were not part of a couple?
    I assumed she was since there was no mention of a couple. My mistake I guess.
    Straight couples make the choice never to have children. Homosexual couples make the choice to have them.

    Which one is more natural?

    Given the enormous advances in reproductive medicine, the "unnatural" argument really doesn't hold any water anymore. People who really want children will have them and those who don't won't. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation anymore.
    This is not reproduction.
    Homosexual couples cannot reproduce because they're from the same gender.
    If two lesbians go to the sperm bank to take a sperm from some male, and then use it to create life with one of the lesbian's ovum, the other lesbian's genes would not be transferred into the created life.
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