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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Force. When they do that, I will stand with you. But, I wonder if your and my definition of "force" are the same.
    When one's only reason for opposing gay marriage is religious and one tries to stop gay marriage from being legalized on that basis, that is most certainly trying to force their personal religious views on the whole of society.

    Because there was precedence in other laws. Using the discrimination tactic worked because of that. And they could not alter those things, originally without an amendment.
    You keep ignoring that, depending on how far back you step, there is precedence for gay marriage already present in our legal system. We both have the precedent of marriage at all and the call for equal treatment under the law. Refusing gay marriage already violates both of those, we don't need yet another amendment for it.

    But you go right on believing whatever you want. More and more states are discovering that gay marriage should already be legal and are declaring it so without any amendment process.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I don't want it called "marriage", because it isn't what marriage has been and meant in almost every culture for thousands of years.
    Who cares? The meaning of words change all the time. What we use the word "gay" for today isn't what it meant just a few decades ago. What one culture uses a word for, such as "fag" may have an entirely different meaning in another.

    The argument from tradition is logically fallacious. All that matters is what marriage means right this second and what it means right this second in most nations is entirely secular.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    This can be done.

    Should it be done?
    That is the obvious question. However, there are two questions when you bring in procreative intent. Should same sex marriage be allowed, and should procreative intent be required. The two are not necessarily tied to each other, and I don't think it is in the best interest of those of us for same sex marriage to try and tie them together. It tends to tie us to what I see as a fringe element group, and only would cost us support.

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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is the obvious question. However, there are two questions when you bring in procreative intent. Should same sex marriage be allowed, and should procreative intent be required. The two are not necessarily tied to each other, and I don't think it is in the best interest of those of us for same sex marriage to try and tie them together. It tends to tie us to what I see as a fringe element group, and only would cost us support.
    What fringe element group?

    Or are you arguing that gay marriage abhors children?

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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    What fringe element group?

    Or are you arguing that gay marriage abhors children?
    I do not think that those who want to change marriage to require procreative intent are anything beyond a fringe element group. That is, I think very few people support that position.

    No I do not think gay marriage abhors children, I think gay marriage would be good for children.

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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    When one's only reason for opposing gay marriage is religious and one tries to stop gay marriage from being legalized on that basis, that is most certainly trying to force their personal religious views on the whole of society.
    On the other hand, forcing everyone to accept any legal union of two persons as a "marriage", also forces persons who holds the view you outline (per their religion) to accept a definition of "marriage" which is counter to their religion.

    While the word "marriage" might only be a word, it is also a religious institution, as well as a legal one at this time. Thus, in my mind, legislating or ruling that gay marriage is legal is a violation of the separation of church and state.

    My personal wish is for marriage to be eliminated as a legal method of joining two persons, and that a new institution be created for the same purpose ("civil unions"?).

    This, IMO, would eliminate the gay marriage debate in political circles (at least secular political circles). Which IMO is all to the good.
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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No I do not think gay marriage abhors children, I think gay marriage would be good for children.
    So marriage really is all about the children?

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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Gay-marriage doesn't have to be *only* about children because interracial/hetero-marriage certainly is not.

    However, 'marriage' per-se is mainly about raising children. If gays can show Conservatives/blacks that their preferred flavor of marriage is also mainly about raising children, then we'll sign off on it and turn the same blind eye to all those other childless gay couples who marry as we do those childless heteros that marry.
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    Re: Would you vote to legal same gender marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    So marriage really is all about the children?
    No. Marriage is all about love to my mind. Sometimes this results in children, or in the case of gay marriages, in adopted children, or two parents for children from previous relationships.

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