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    mad Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    This past Friday, the House of Representitives voted in favor of the controversial bill called "Cap and Trade." Eight Republicans voted for it--enough to get it through.

    Neal Boortz calls it "The greatest tax increase in American history." It will cost trillions of dollars.

    How do you like it? Vote.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    No poll there love


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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    No. Of course not. No one with any sense will.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    This past Friday, the House of Representitives voted in favor of the controversial bill called "Cap and Trade." Eight Republicans voted for it--enough to get it through.

    Neal Boortz calls it "The greatest tax increase in American history." It will cost trillions of dollars.

    How do you like it? Vote.
    Can you provide some sources for your comments to give a better picture? Right now you are doing what is known as "push polling", slanting your information to get a desired result.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    I vote no to this particular plan. The costs outweight the actual benefits, thus it will hurt the economy without actually making equal strides in protecting the environment.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/wp6.pdf

    Cap and Trade will put the greatest burden on the poor: as a percent of household income, the average burden will be
    6.2% for the bottom quintile,
    3.2% for the second quintile,
    2.4% for the middle quintile,
    2.0% for the fourth quintile, and
    1.4% for the highest quintile.

    The economic impact is calculable. The environmental impact is not.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    We don't even know if AGW is real. How in the hell can anyone support a policy decision based upon an assumption?

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/wp6.pdf

    Cap and Trade will put the greatest burden on the poor: as a percent of household income, the average burden will be
    6.2% for the bottom quintile,
    3.2% for the second quintile,
    2.4% for the middle quintile,
    2.0% for the fourth quintile, and
    1.4% for the highest quintile.

    The economic impact is calculable. The environmental impact is not.
    This is false.

    Source: Cantor Sticking with $3,100 Cost Estimate | The FactCheck Wire

    CBO notes, however, that the $175 average cost does “not reveal the wide range of effects that the cap-and-trade program would have on households in different income brackets.” According to CBO, “households in the lowest income quintile [lowest one-fifth] would see an average net benefit of about $40 in 2020, while households in the highest income quintile would see a net cost of $245.” In addition, the report says “[h]ouseholds in the second lowest quintile would see added costs of about $40 on average, those in the middle quintile would see an increase in costs of about $235, and those in the fourth quintile would pay about an additional $340 per year.” Additionally, the CBO says that its analysis does not include the benefits, economic or otherwise, of reducing greenhouse gas emissions — which can be difficult to quantify.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    For one thing, how could cap and trade provide anyone with any net benefit?

    Also, from your source: The Cap and Tax Fiction - WSJ.com

    The CBO's analysis looks solely at the year 2020, before most of the tough restrictions kick in. As the cap is tightened and companies are stripped of initial opportunities to "offset" their emissions, the price of permits will skyrocket beyond the CBO estimate of $28 per ton of carbon. The corporate costs of buying these expensive permits will be passed to consumers.

    The biggest doozy in the CBO analysis was its extraordinary decision to look only at the day-to-day costs of operating a trading program, rather than the wider consequences energy restriction would have on the economy. The CBO acknowledges this in a footnote: "The resource cost does not indicate the potential decrease in gross domestic product (GDP) that could result from the cap."

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post


    The FactCheck.org Wire and Annenberg Political Fact Check are projects of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania.
    Um, of course these folks will spin this in Obama's favor since he sat on the Annenberg Challenge board with his terrorist buddy Billy Ayers. Ayers was a “key founder” of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

    In 1995 Obama was appointed Board Chairman and President of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a “branch of the Annenberg Foundation”.

    Last edited by Invayne; 06-30-09 at 04:18 PM.

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