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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Many in Europe have been saying for a few years now that it seems as if our American government is taking steps to "intentionally" collapse our economy...
    It would appear so. I think our engagement of China has done more to destroy us than any war ever could. It is time we started looking to the future, instead of a few feet ahead of our noses. The U.S. is declining and nations such as China, India, and even Brazil are on the rise!

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    It would appear so. I think our engagement of China has done more to destroy us than any war ever could. It is time we started looking to the future, instead of a few feet ahead of our noses. The U.S. is declining and nations such as China, India, and even Brazil are on the rise!
    Perhaps we should place a minimum I.Q. limit to have a decision making seat in this country..

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Perhaps we should place a minimum I.Q. limit to have a decision making seat in this country..
    I think you are right. Unfortunately, elections are popularity contests now days. Perhaps it is time for one of those revolutions, Jefferson prescribed.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    The important part to remember is how much more polution EU, USA and other developed countries in the world.
    Sentence fragment without verb.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    That if India and China just got half the CO2/emission per capita the world would be really screwed even if you didn't belive in main made global warming, because their are not enough oil and coal, to support that demand.
    "there is", not "their are".

    Also, the free market will control the demand of fossil fuels, not something we need to worry about, we've got trillions of barrels of reserves in the ground under our feet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    That an important part for EU and USA is to lead the way and give opportunities for China and India to don't make the same mistake as us.
    The only mistake the US has made was to become socialist and elect spineless pansies who wet their pants over non-existent ecological crises that wouldn't become important until a hundred years from now even if they were actually happening, which they aren't.

    If we can get China to make that mistake, we're doing damned good.

    Can you explain why all the stupid people are worried about an ecological disaster that won't happen?

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    My concern is more over how they could all vote for a bill they haven't read.
    One word:

    Habit.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Many in Europe have been saying for a few years now that it seems as if our American government is taking steps to "intentionally" collapse our economy...
    Many in America have been saying the same thing. Those of us that have didn't vote for the Messiah or his party.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I think you are right. Unfortunately, elections are popularity contests now days. Perhaps it is time for one of those revolutions, Jefferson prescribed.

    If they keep tightening the noose on us with every petty law they can shoehorn in something may give.....I hear talk from a LOT of people that are starting to have some deep resentment in this country...

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Perhaps we should place a minimum I.Q. limit to have a decision making seat in this country..
    No, just limit the privelege to vote to the people who pay the taxes.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    After alot of thought and a lot of reading I still dont support cap and trade. I see only two real reasons for it.

    1. Government control of industry.
    2. Taxes.

    It has nothing (imo) to do with the enviroment. Take this example: A large corporation that supplies 80% of Missouri with electricity suddenly reaches there cap. They have one of three options, first being to purchase more CO2 allowance from the Fed, second trade with another company, third stop supplying electricity to millions of needing customers. The government isnt going to allow millions of people to go without power if no CO2 is available for the company to trade so they will simply sell them more (perhaps with a fine). So in the end we have not capped any CO2 production but instead only charged them for conducting buisness.

    I think that if it were truly about the enviroment they would simply "cap" allowed CO2 and not have the sell/trade issue.

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    Re: Do You Support "Cap and Trade?"

    This is a defacto tax on those making less than 200k a year.


    Think about it. who is paying more, who is recieving money when this nonsense goes into play.


    F Obama.


    Matthew 10:34
    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

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