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Should Sanford resign?

Should Mark Sanford resign from his current position.

  • Yes

    Votes: 29 53.7%

  • No

    Votes: 26 48.1%
  • Total voters
    54
  • Poll closed .
The problem is there are two things you could take from this scandal (or any similar scandal).

The first is that "family values" is the campaign cry of a charlatan and the other is that Sanford is a bad man and should resign.

I'm pretty sure I know which one the voters of South Carolina are going to take.

Strom Thurmond had a black child while championing segregation, Newt Gingrich had an affair while publicly criticizing Clinton for the same thing and Larry Craig had anonymous gas sex in airport bathrooms while using gays as a whipping post to garner votes.

If you claim to have "family values" you inevitably are morally bankrupt. And more importantly, you're intellectually bankrupt. People who run on "values" have no "ideas". If you have ideas your values are shown through your ideas. "Values" are empty and meaningless, so they attract empty and (black maid-****ing, wife-cheating-while-finger-pointing and bathroom **** sucking) meaningless people.

I always dismiss any candidate that runs on "values" as a probable cross dressing party hack with nothing of substance.
 
His career is over so he may as well just step down:(
 
Well, Mark Sanford called for Clinton to resign after the scandal with Monica Lewinsky. So why is he not stepping down after his scandal with this unknown women from Argentina?

I don't know, that sounds a little bit hypocritical to me.
 
new coup for you said:
The problem is there are two things you could take from this scandal (or any similar scandal).

The first is that "family values" is the campaign cry of a charlatan and the other is that Sanford is a bad man and should resign.

I'm pretty sure I know which one the voters of South Carolina are going to take.
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I wouldn't be so sure.

One thing I I have learned about politics over time is that it is the most unpreditcable arena.

Politics is characterized by passionate ambivalence to core idealogies.
 
jallman said:
I wouldn't be so sure.

One thing I I have learned about politics over time is that it is the most unpreditcable arena.

Politics is characterized by passionate ambivalence to core idealogies.
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They voted for Strom Thurmond after they found out he had an illegitimate black child.
 
I'm not voting because there is no "other" option. Whether or not he should resign is entirely up to the people of South Carolina. If they can forgive him, he should stay, but if they cannot stand behind an adulterous governor, he should resign. I really don't care either way.
 
When it comes to people minus ethics getting elected, let us never forget Marrion Barry. If you can get convicted of possession of crack cocaine and still get elected, some one having an affair is minor.
 
new coup for you said:
Well personally I think voting or an open segregationist would probably be something I'd shy away from, but one that had illegitimate black children would definitely do it.

South Carolina is an abyss.
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Or maybe the constituency is a little more intelligent than their idealogical represenation. :shrug:
 
new coup for you said:
The problem is there are two things you could take from this scandal (or any similar scandal).

The first is that "family values" is the campaign cry of a charlatan and the other is that Sanford is a bad man and should resign.

I'm pretty sure I know which one the voters of South Carolina are going to take.

Strom Thurmond had a black child while championing segregation, Newt Gingrich had an affair while publicly criticizing Clinton for the same thing and Larry Craig had anonymous gas sex in airport bathrooms while using gays as a whipping post to garner votes.

If you claim to have "family values" you inevitably are morally bankrupt. And more importantly, you're intellectually bankrupt. People who run on "values" have no "ideas". If you have ideas your values are shown through your ideas. "Values" are empty and meaningless, so they attract empty and (black maid-****ing, wife-cheating-while-finger-pointing and bathroom **** sucking) meaningless people.

I always dismiss any candidate that runs on "values" as a probable cross dressing party hack with nothing of substance.
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You show a stunning ignorance of what "values" are.
 
jallman said:
Or maybe the constituency is a little more intelligent than their idealogical represenation. :shrug:
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Well, see, that's their opportunity to show us what kind of people they are. So that'd be the time to not vote for a segregationist with illegitimate black children that he had with his maid.
 
new coup for you said:
Well, see, that's their opportunity to show us what kind of people they are. So that'd be the time to not vote for a segregationist with illegitimate black children that he had with his maid.
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Do you just want me to start singing "My Mammy" because I will.


And I won't feel bad about it at all. :lol:
 
jallman said:
Do you just want me to start singing "My Mammy" because I will.


And I won't feel bad about it at all. :lol:
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I actually am not a hair-trigger race-card liberal. My views on race are more then outside of what'd be considered acceptable within the mainstream Democratic party...

Nevertheless, I know how to separate my personal biases from how I think society at large should operate.

I think a person can be what some might call a "racist" while understanding that society should treat everyone equally, even if they themselves might not.
 
new coup for you said:
I actually am not a hair-trigger race-card liberal. My views on race are more then outside of what'd be considered acceptable within the mainstream Democratic party...

Nevertheless, I know how to separate my personal biases from how I think society at large should operate.

I think a person can be what some might call a "racist" while understanding that society should treat everyone equally, even if they themselves might not.
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So, you've met before then, right? :lol:
 
new coup for you said:
I don't think I know what you mean...?
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It was sort of a joke. I mean that I believe the government should treat everyone the exact same way but that belief doesn't negate the fact that some stereotypes are true and worthy of scorn, on a personal level.

I figured you knew that about me thus the whole, "You've met me before" comment.
 
jallman said:
It was sort of a joke. I mean that I believe the government should treat everyone the exact same way but that belief doesn't negate the fact that some stereotypes are true and worthy of scorn, on a personal level.

I figured you knew that about me thus the whole, "You've met me before" comment.
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You forgot the "me" :lol:.

But yeah, that sounds like a pretty reasonable description of how I feel.

I also have this really petty issue with black music because I feel like it's stealing the legitimacy away from mine.

All the musics I listen to goes on and on about "the working class", but the "working class" (at least where I live) doesn't actually listen to my music, they like to top 40 rap and R&B.

So instead of listening to punk rockers tell them to rise above, they listen to Jay Z or whoever and his pathetic message of petty capitalism and pointless consumerism.

I feel like it's misguiding the American working class.
 
new coup for you said:
You forgot the "me" :lol:.

But yeah, that sounds like a pretty reasonable description of how I feel.

I also have this really petty issue with black music because I feel like it's stealing the legitimacy away from mine.

All the musics I listen to goes on and on about "the working class", but the "working class" (at least where I live) doesn't actually listen to my music, they like to top 40 rap and R&B.

So instead of listening to punk rockers tell them to rise above, they listen to Jay Z or whoever and his pathetic message of petty capitalism and pointless consumerism.

I feel like it's misguiding the American working class.
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It's not because I don't care; it's because I really don't even know how to respond to that...that I don't.

I never really bought into that whole angsty "My message isn't heard" ideal.

Maybe if punk music were a little more intelligible, I would be more willing to defend it.
 
jallman said:
It's not because I don't care; it's because I really don't even know how to respond to that...that I don't.

I never really bought into that whole angsty "My message isn't heard" ideal.

Maybe if punk music were a little more intelligible, I would be more willing to defend it.
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Well, you have to be someone who genuinely believes in class struggle, and I doubt that you do. I think that music can be a catalyst for real social change.

I really think the values projecting in top 40 rap is really bad for American culture.
 
new coup for you said:
Well, you have to be someone who genuinely believes in class struggle, and I doubt that you do. I think that music can be a catalyst for real social change.

I really think the values projecting in top 40 rap is really bad for American culture.
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The "values" in rap are bad for America. :shrug:
 
Over this? No.

I don't think that politicians are good moral leaders. So Sanford being a cheating hypocrite isn't exactly something that's outraging me outside from his campaigning on social conservatism, but I'm pretty jaded to the point where I'm no longer surprised when social conservatives flagrantly ignore their beliefs.

If Sanford ran the state fiscally well with good employment, low crime and a solid balance sheet, him teabagging hookers isn't that much of a concern to me.

I'd rather have a competent, but immoral governor rather then an upstanding morally pure governor who couldn't run a kiddie fair well.
 
new coup for you said:
:lol: I love sounding like my mom with friend by lecturing them about how "the rap music" is destroying the moral fiber of our nation.
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From a big queer to a little queer: it's only going to get stranger from here on. That's a promise.
 
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