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    Re: Career politicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    True, you did not say they should be in office for life.

    However, as the low turnover rate in the Congress, when coupled with the low approval rate of Congress (36% approval as of the latest polling data), demonstrates, without term limits, they effectively become politicians "for life", and govern accordingly (which is to say, horribly).

    As Lord Acton stated most succinctly: "Power corrupts".

    Term limits limit power, and thus limit corruption.
    So, then the people need to vote out and remove those that become corrupt or those that are not approved of. Wouldn't you agree with this?
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    Re: Career politicans?

    To my mind, we do have term limits. They are called elections. If people want to get rid of some one, vote for the other guy. Term limits would just take away from my options.

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    Re: Career politicans?

    Sounds like what you all are saying is that the people need protection, that the government needs to intervene in a free election system and place some parameters to keep the people safe from those who might be corrupt. Interesting...
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    Re: Career politicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    So, then the people need to vote out and remove those that become corrupt or those that are not approved of. Wouldn't you agree with this?
    Conceptually, yes.

    If corruption were limited to constituents' tax dollars I likely would.

    The problem is that corruption is not so limited.

    Stevens' bridge to nowhere and Murtha's empty airport were paid for with federal dollars--meaning my tax dollars left Texas, headed to Washington, and then to Alaska and Pennsylvania.

    Now, if you want to roll back the century and a half of predations upon states' rights, and return this country to the proper Constitutional order of things, I might rethink my stand on term limits.

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    Re: Career politicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Sounds like what you all are saying is that the people need protection, that the government needs to intervene in a free election system and place some parameters to keep the people safe from those who might be corrupt. Interesting...
    The protection is not of the people who get to vote for their representative, but the people who don't get to vote and are affected by the choice anyways.

    For example, when a state elects its Senators, those Senators make decisions that affect the whole country. In a perfect world all Senators would be equal, but this is not the case: the more someone stays in the Senate, the more power they have. Now, a state is going to want to grab all the power it can get, so it re-elects and re-elects its Senators, however crappy they are. The only way to stop this cycle is to put term limits on the Senate.

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    Re: Career politicans?

    Every politician should be subject to mandatory term limits, for reasons already posted by several here. The maximum number of terms allowed per each elected official is another matter.

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    Re: Career politicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The advantages that incumbents have, in seniority-based power and fundraising capacity, are such that challengers rarely succeed.

    Term limits would level that field a bit and give someone else a chance.

    Politics is NOT like everyone else's job, because they run the country. We don't need people who think of themselves as part of the professional ruling class, above the common herd.


    I would almost rather pick Congress at random, out of a hat, than what we currently have in DC.
    Well, how does the hat prevent corruption from seeping into Congress?

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    Re: Career politicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by George VI View Post
    Well, how does the hat prevent corruption from seeping into Congress?
    That was mostly rhetoric, but since you asked... it would prevent career politicians!

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    Re: Career politicans?

    Difficult to say alot of people complain politicians arent in tune with the publice.I think the opposite is true they just walk the tightrope of to get re elected.But then again how can you really aim for a job that will only last 8 years?
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    Re: Career politicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    How do you vote?

    My vote - Eliminate them entirely. Put term limits on everyone. As long as the law limits their terms, then they will be limited as to the amount of damage they can do as a result of believing that they are better than the rest of us.
    Term limits don't solve the problem.

    We must eliminate universal suffrage. Implement a sound way to filter out the crap from our stock of people to make a limited supply of eligible voters.
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