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    Re: Would you allow your 13 year old child on this forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I'm 15. 3 years ago, I tested as smarter, and undoubtedly more mature then an 18 year old.
    Something about testing kind of makes that information weird.
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: Would you allow your 13 year old child on this forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlappyTheKinkajou View Post
    Something about testing kind of makes that information weird.
    Will you simply take my word that I'm mature?
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    Re: Would you allow your 13 year old child on this forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Will you simply take my word that I'm mature?
    No.

    Smarts and maturity do not correlate.

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    Re: Would you allow your 13 year old child on this forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Will you simply take my word that I'm mature?
    What does it mean for you to be mature?
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: Would you allow your 13 year old child on this forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I'm 15. 3 years ago, I tested as smarter, and undoubtedly more mature then an 18 year old. I have had some crazy feelings before. I've felt intense anger, hatred, passion, lust, sadness, but I am have never let them control me. I've wanted to hurt people, I have wanted to hold people, to love them....but have never lost control. Goshin, it all depends on the person, and age's affect is simply one factor in a large list.
    I don't entirely disagree with you. I've known 40 year olds who were as irresponsible as any teenager; I've known 15yo's who were better company and more intresting in conversation than many people twice their age.

    However, these are the exceptions, not the norm. Even given that a 15yo may be unusually bright and "mature", there are certain perspectives in which experience makes an enormous difference. I can have a conversation with someone who has had many similar experiences to mine, and a lot of things can go unsaid but understood because of context. With someone lacking a certain experience (such as having been married, being a parent) there are many things they are very unlikely to really understand on a deep level, for lack of that experience.

    BTW, when I was 15, I argued that intellect and relative maturity were more important than "age" also. Yes, "age" is only a number in one sense, and for some people really that's all it is...but for a good many, "age" means experience, and that does make a difference.

    I've put it mathmatically before like this:

    E x I = W

    Where E is experience, I is Intelligence, and W is Wisdom.

    If you compute it out with different variables a few times, you see that people with more intelligence get more wisdom out of their experiences. People with NO intelligence get NO wisdom out of their experiences.

    But, no matter how high a value you assign to Intelligence, if E is 0 then W is 0.

    It's just a mathmatical analogy of course, nothing more than a demonstration tool.... but I think it is pretty close to reality.

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    Re: Would you allow your 13 year old child on this forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlappyTheKinkajou View Post
    What does it mean for you to be mature?
    Well, my definition is different from yours, but I define it as not being childish, not allowing bad emotions to spill out, to avoid vulgarity, and to treat others with respect, regardless of background ( to certain extents of course). I also feel it is to be able to think rationally, and to act rationally.
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    Re: Would you allow your 13 year old child on this forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    ... to avoid vulgarity...
    **** that!
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    Re: Would you allow your 13 year old child on this forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Well, definition is different from yours,
    What an assumption.

    but I define it as not being childish,
    What does being childish mean? What does not being childish mean? What does being childish look like? What does not being childish look like?

    not allowing bad emotions to spill out,
    What are emotions you would consider bad?

    to avoid vulgarity,
    agree.

    and to treat others with respect, regardless of background ( to certain extents of course).
    What actions must one take to show respect to another? Why must you disregard his background?

    I also feel it is to be able to think rationally, and to act rationally.
    agreed.
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: Would you allow your 13 year old child on this forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlappyTheKinkajou View Post
    What an assumption.
    What does being childish mean? What does not being childish mean? What does being childish look like? What does not being childish look like?
    What are emotions you would consider bad?
    What actions must one take to show respect to another? Why must you disregard his background?
    I assume that my definition is different, because you and I undoubtedly think differently .

    Childish, as in complaing about little things like food not being cooked correctly, not getting to go shopping, that sort of thing. Not being childish as in not getting fussy about the little things in life, like when it starts raining on a day you want to go out.....basically when you act like a 6 year old, when your 10 or older.

    Over-reactions with anger, hate, lust when you shouldn't be lustful.

    TO show respect to another person, you should listen to what he/she says. You should say thank you, hello, welcome. You should try to view things from their perspective, and you should not simply disregard something they say. You shouldn't be angry with them without reason, you should never hurt another person, and you should in general be kind. Common courtesies people ignore....

    Background as in race, skin color, ethnicity, socio-economic status, age, height, weight, gender, etc.

    If someone commited a crime, then you don't have the right to disrespect that person, but you should chastise them( to certain extents) for their crime. And crime as in stealing, hurting others, killing, kidnapping, mugging. Nothing like double park, a faux pas, shut the door on someone you didn't know was there, etc.
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    Re: Would you allow your 13 year old child on this forum?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I assume that my definition is different, because you and I undoubtedly think differently .
    Undoubtedly?

    Childish, as in complaing about little things like food not being cooked correctly,
    What do you mean?

    Over-reactions with anger, hate, lust when you shouldn't be lustful.
    How can you tell that you are over-reacting?
    Let's figure it out.

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