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  • The US government should apologize for slavery.

    4 9.09%
  • The people should apologize for slavery

    1 2.27%
  • Since elected officials represent us they should apologize in our name.

    1 2.27%
  • The people in Africa whose ancestors captured and sold people into slavery.

    4 9.09%
  • The governments of various countries in Africa were the slave trade once occurred.

    3 6.82%
  • Government officials in Africa apologizing in the name of their constituents.

    1 2.27%
  • No one should apologize for slavery.

    37 84.09%
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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Like jallman said, victim mentallity...
    Well, slaves WERE victims. That doesn't mean their descendants are also victims of slavery...but that is neither stated nor implied in the apology.

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    where does it end? What about the horrible treatment of the Irish and Chinese during the building of the railroads... the Native American Tribes were treated worse, in general, than the African Slaves... too women for not letting the vote?... to blacks again for desegregation?
    Yes, I think our government should apologize for all of those things. I don't understand what is so wrong about our government admitting it was wrong.
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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well, slaves WERE victims. That doesn't mean their descendants are also victims of slavery...but that is neither stated nor implied in the apology.



    Yes, I think our government should apologize for all of those things. I don't understand what is so wrong about our government admitting it was wrong.
    But is it enough to simply make a blanket apology? It seems so flimsy and fake...
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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Congress passes non-binding resolutions all the time; this is nothing new. Is your only concern here with the amount of time they spent on the issue, or do you have an actual objection to the apology?
    My "actual objection" to this non-binding resolution is that Congress should not wast time passing non-binding resolutions at all.

    That and who cares about slavery anyway? I mean are these people of real consequence or just some irrelevant minority who are going to keep voting for the party that founded the KKK and stood with fire-hose in hand to oppose desegregation?

    What is Congress trying to accomplish with this resolution? Anything of value or just more feel-goodness?

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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So you would support an official apology for segregation, right?



    The apology isn't necessarily directed to the descendants of slaves or to African-Americans in particular. It is directed to all American citizens, and to the world. It is the government apologizing for its own human rights abuses, as it should.

    One can apologize for an historical act without implying that people are still victimized by it today. For example, the Catholic Church issued a mea culpa around 1990 for its persecution of Galileo and his scientific theories...that doesn't mean that anyone thought people were still suffering from the Inquisition or that the Catholic Church still believed the sun revolved around the earth until 1990.
    But is it worth taxpayers dollars to do this since it means little to nothing to anyone?

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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yes, I think our government should apologize for all of those things. I don't understand what is so wrong about our government admitting it was wrong.
    If you ran a company, would you want your employees while on your time and money apologizing on your behalf for **** you didn't do when they have real work to do? "Kandahar is sorry his ancestor's neighbor's husband had an affair with your ancestor's grandmother"
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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Anyone who owns or has owned a slave, I'd say.
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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So you would support an official apology for segregation, right?
    So long as it is directly to those who were segregated from those who segregated them (the states that had segregation policies), I have no problem with it. It should be to the whites, black etc.

    I'd also support a letter of apology sent to any Japanese people who are still alive that were placed in internment camps in WWII.


    The apology isn't necessarily directed to the descendants of slaves or to African-Americans in particular. It is directed to all American citizens, and to the world. It is the government apologizing for its own human rights abuses, as it should.

    One can apologize for an historical act without implying that people are still victimized by it today. For example, the Catholic Church issued a mea culpa around 1990 for its persecution of Galileo and his scientific theories...that doesn't mean that anyone thought people were still suffering from the Inquisition or that the Catholic Church still believed the sun revolved around the earth until 1990.
    The apology to Galileo was bull**** if that's what it apologized for. Galileo was sanctioned not for his scientific views, but because he interpreted scripture. If they appologized for something they didn't actually do, it's an empty apology.

    The Catholic Church can lay claim to deriving the heliocentric system since it was one of their priests who derived the theory. (Copernicus)

    Galileo didn't do **** but argue in favor of that system and try to make scripture fit with it. Galieo gets far too much credit on the matter while Kepler and Copernicus get ****ed in the eyes of "common knowledge" history because Galileo gets the credit.

    The only thing that the Catholic church's apology did was make it so more people are clueless about the history of heliocentrism and will continue to credit Galileo for that which he did not do and demonize the Catholic church for that which it did not do. Galileo was aware that he was violating the law when he interpreted scripture. When he placed the words of the Pope in the mouth of his fool character, Simplico. He knew there would be repercussions for doing this. He deserved no apology.

    In other words, the Catholic Church's bull**** apology made the world a dumber place because it has made it so that fewer people know facts and more people believe nonsense.

    There was nothing gained by the Catholic Church's apology, and the world lost intelligence over it.

    So your example apology was a detriment to the world and offered no benefit.

    That's kind of like how I see apologizing to dead people over slavery would be.
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    joke Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Obama should half appologize to half of himself then half-appologize to the nation.
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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Obama should half appologize to half of himself then half-appologize to the nation.
    The black side of The Obama was never a vicitm of slavery in the US.
    As such, no one needs to apologize to him, and he has no claim to the suffering of those that were.

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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Are there some slaves out there asking for an apology??
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