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  • The US government should apologize for slavery.

    4 9.09%
  • The people should apologize for slavery

    1 2.27%
  • Since elected officials represent us they should apologize in our name.

    1 2.27%
  • The people in Africa whose ancestors captured and sold people into slavery.

    4 9.09%
  • The governments of various countries in Africa were the slave trade once occurred.

    3 6.82%
  • Government officials in Africa apologizing in the name of their constituents.

    1 2.27%
  • No one should apologize for slavery.

    37 84.09%
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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    But the US government, as an institution, was complicit in slavery.
    But there are no people left who warrant an apology for it.

    If a former slave was still alive, he/she would be owed an apology. But since that is not the case, no apology is necessary.


    By apologizing to people who have not been harmed by slavery, we instill the myth that they have been harmed by slavery.

    No black person alive today has been directly impacted by slavery.

    It's a total non-issue at this point, and the apology only serves to foster illusions that the current populous has been a victim of something long dead and gone.
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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    No one should appologise.

    someone might express regret!


    Slavery still exists today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    But the US government, as an institution, was complicit in slavery.
    The US government, as an institution, changes hands each generation.

    No one connected with slavery is alive today. If I find out my congressman signed on to a bill apologizing on my behalf for a something I did not do, then I will be in the market for a new congressman based on that alone.

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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If a former slave was still alive, he/she would be owed an apology.
    He would be owed an apology by someone who promoted slavery.

    None of those are alive, either.

    So he'd be outta luck.

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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    What I don't understand is what we lose by apologizing.
    We don't lose anything, but like the Catholic Church apologizing to Galileo, it's a pointless gesture. It means nothing. The people who are apologizing had nothing to do with slavery, nor did anyone they might be apologizing to.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    No one should apologize! But we should all get our freak on!

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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    But there are no people left who warrant an apology for it.

    If a former slave was still alive, he/she would be owed an apology. But since that is not the case, no apology is necessary.
    So you would support an official apology for segregation, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case
    By apologizing to people who have not been harmed by slavery, we instill the myth that they have been harmed by slavery.

    No black person alive today has been directly impacted by slavery.

    It's a total non-issue at this point, and the apology only serves to foster illusions that the current populous has been a victim of something long dead and gone.
    The apology isn't necessarily directed to the descendants of slaves or to African-Americans in particular. It is directed to all American citizens, and to the world. It is the government apologizing for its own human rights abuses, as it should.

    One can apologize for an historical act without implying that people are still victimized by it today. For example, the Catholic Church issued a mea culpa around 1990 for its persecution of Galileo and his scientific theories...that doesn't mean that anyone thought people were still suffering from the Inquisition or that the Catholic Church still believed the sun revolved around the earth until 1990.
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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    If the US government hasn't appologized yet, then they should, but I thought that the US had appologized already though. A government and a country takes into account everything it has done in the past, (national debt is an example) so they would need to appologize.


    Normal citizens shouldn't though, because that was in the past, and I don't like the idea of a collective appology :P

    If someone contributed to segregation then they should appologize though, but thats still about an individual appology.
    If one man bumps into another man, an apology is in order...a simple "excuse me" suffices..
    Slavery is non-comparable with simple bumping. It happened, is over, and we may live for the future....
    Sadly, slavery still exists...I have read. The poor sell their children into slavery in backward nations.. Women are sold as "sex-slaves"...again, I have heard....
    Man must learn from his past, in order to live in the future..

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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    But there are no people left who warrant an apology for it.

    If a former slave was still alive, he/she would be owed an apology. But since that is not the case, no apology is necessary.


    By apologizing to people who have not been harmed by slavery, we instill the myth that they have been harmed by slavery.

    No black person alive today has been directly impacted by slavery. The black man's family was quite well destroyed by slavery; he has yet to fully recover..

    It's a total non-issue at this point, and the apology only serves to foster illusions that the current populous has been a victim of something long dead and gone.
    An apology would be silly at most; improved and special education might be beneficial..

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    Re: Who should appologize for slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So you would support an official apology for segregation, right?
    Certainly, as soon as all the other world governments apologies for everything they have ever done wrong in times that were very different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The apology isn't necessarily directed to the descendants of slaves or to African-Americans in particular. It is directed to all American citizens, and to the world. It is the government apologizing for its own human rights abuses, as it should.
    If that is the case the entire world owes us a massive apology.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    One can apologize for an historical act without implying that people are still victimized by it today. For example, the Catholic Church issued a mea culpa around 1990 for its persecution of Galileo and his scientific theories...that doesn't mean that anyone thought people were still suffering from the Inquisition or that the Catholic Church still believed the sun revolved around the earth until 1990.
    So the apology means nothing. Go figure?


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