View Poll Results: Which governmental system would you prefer?

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  • My state (given time to set up an army, etc.)

    13 56.52%
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Thread: Federal or State Government?

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    Re: Federal or State Government?

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    Re: Federal or State Government?

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    Re: Federal or State Government?

    So, my choice is between a federal government with a huge debt and a steadfast refusal to balance the budget by limiting spending, and a state with a huge debt and a steadfast refusal to balance it's budget by limiting spending.

    Why would I prefer either?

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    fyi Re: Federal or State Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Edify_Always_In_All_Ways View Post
    Given the choice, would you rather live in the USA as it is today or in your state under only the rule of your state and city/town/whatever government? This means no federal taxes, no federal courts, no postal service (your state would probably need to build one from scratch), a state army, international relations with the other 49 states, etc. The laws of your state would be enumerated in the state legal code and state constitution.

    Generally, posters on DP seem to believe that the federal government holds far too much power and the states should possess more. Would you be willing to live at the other end of that spectrum?
    America was founded as a collection of independent states (nations). The purpose of the federal government was national defense, although it was allowed to coin legal tender, maintain a few (post) roads, and deliver the mail. THAT'S IT.

    Otherwise, people lived solely under their states' rules.

    There were only two crimes prosecutable by federal law--counterfeiting and treason.

    The multitudes of federal laws we now have are patently unconstitutional.

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    Re: Federal or State Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    America was founded as a collection of independent states (nations). The purpose of the federal government was national defense, although it was allowed to coin legal tender, maintain a few (post) roads, and deliver the mail. THAT'S IT.

    Otherwise, people lived solely under their states' rules.

    There were only two crimes prosecutable by federal law--counterfeiting and treason.

    The multitudes of federal laws we now have are patently unconstitutional.
    Please stop spreading such blatant misinformation.
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    Re: Federal or State Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    America was founded as a collection of independent states (nations).
    Ya know, I'm about as individualistic as they come.

    Even my individualistic and occasionally churlish and acerbic self knows that the 13 original states intended to work together at this whole nation building thing. Most of the states are still pretty keen on the concept.

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
    How you get from "more perfect Union" to every state for itself is unfathomable to me.

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    Re: Federal or State Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I'm willing to bet that if you asked Americans which they identified as first, a resident of their state or a resident of their country, at least 90% of them would answer that they are Americans before anything else. And I am one of that 90%.

    That said, I do believe that government gets more efficient as it gets smaller and more localized, so I think the states should hold a lot of power, but I don't think they should be their own countries.
    Im going to agree with this kid.

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    Re: Federal or State Government?

    If I must ,then it is as it is.
    Otherwise , no vote..
    The poll is too restrictive...
    And the poll originator's agenda should be known..

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    Re: Federal or State Government?

    One only has to read of the extreme rules city councils like to impose and consider some of the extreme state laws of various states to opt towards the feds.

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