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Thread: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Military

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    Re: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Militar

    My father was given this choice and he chose the military. He broke a lot of rules and was booted out. I cannot say for sure that this would happen for a lot of people, but it seems like it would be a waste of time to take the chance.

    The military is best when they focus their time and resources on people who want to be there because they want to be there. I think a a judge could recommend the military to the person, but not until civilian punishment is complete.

    Perhaps reduce a sentence for a person who has done some of the punishment, and has proven rehabilitation, if they agree to do military service?
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    Re: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Militar

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Military should stay a choice in the US, so no.
    I submit that it is still a choice, if a petty criminal wants to avoid jail they get the chance at reforming in the military or, choose to serve a traditional sentence.
    Personally I think it is a good idea depending on the case and the crime committed, the military teaches discipline, and fosters a greater sense of others over self, something a borderline defendant could benefit from.
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    Re: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Militar

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    I am uncomfortable with the idea of Military service being meted out as a sentence for crimes committed.

    The choice to serve should be free from all coercion.
    I don't consider it coercion if the option exists to serve in the military or prison however, either way someone is going to serve time for the crime they have committed, the military option at least for someone who can be reformed would be a benefit provided they qualify for service, I'd rather pay taxes on servicemen than criminals anyday.
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    Re: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Militar

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I submit that it is still a choice, if a petty criminal wants to avoid jail they get the chance at reforming in the military or, choose to serve a traditional sentence.
    Personally I think it is a good idea depending on the case and the crime committed, the military teaches discipline, and fosters a greater sense of others over self, something a borderline defendant could benefit from.
    Military or jail is not a choice.
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    Re: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Militar

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I submit that it is still a choice, if a petty criminal wants to avoid jail they get the chance at reforming in the military or, choose to serve a traditional sentence.
    Personally I think it is a good idea depending on the case and the crime committed, the military teaches discipline, and fosters a greater sense of others over self, something a borderline defendant could benefit from.
    Just based on my experiences I would tend to suspect that far too many of these type people would not make it through their time in the military. The military does teach discipline, but the groundwork has to already be there for it to work.

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    Re: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Militar

    I believe Rev has some thoughts on this matter.
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    Re: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Militar

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just based on my experiences I would tend to suspect that far too many of these type people would not make it through their time in the military. The military does teach discipline, but the groundwork has to already be there for it to work.
    The only real "groundwork" is desire. Desire is the foundation for discipline; it is the drive that compels a person onward.

    Which is why I am leery of anyone being tempted or coerced into the military as a means of evading a prison term. Where is the desire to serve in such a person? Where is the drive to master the professions of arms?

    The military can go a long way in instilling the habits of discipline in any person, but those habits will not take root and grow in a healthy direction if there is not a basic desire to serve.

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    Re: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Militar

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I believe Rev has some thoughts on this matter.

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    Re: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Militar

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    The only real "groundwork" is desire. Desire is the foundation for discipline; it is the drive that compels a person onward.

    Which is why I am leery of anyone being tempted or coerced into the military as a means of evading a prison term. Where is the desire to serve in such a person? Where is the drive to master the professions of arms?

    The military can go a long way in instilling the habits of discipline in any person, but those habits will not take root and grow in a healthy direction if there is not a basic desire to serve.
    Yeah, that was what I wanted to say, but you got it much better. If you don't want to be in the military, you are probably going to fail, you won't have the desire to succeed.

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    Re: Should the Judges have the choice to sentence Non Violant Offeders to the Militar

    Why would you single out a particular musical instrument? If judges are go ind to send other musicians into the military, viol players should get the same treatment.
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