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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It makes sense then, that as a Conservative, I would want to preserve what marriage always was before, while it also makes sense that progressives want marriage to now become something else.
    Where do I stand then?

    Oh yeah, in the, "I don't really give a rats ass less" category. For debating purposes only though, I usually side with the gay marriage crowd just because of reasons I have stated before, those being...

    1. Its unequal for the government to PREVENT access to a group of people's who have a different view of sexual orientation.

    2. Nobody holds a monopoly on what marriage is, some religions allow, under the word marriage, a joining of two homosexual persons, therefore its unfair to base the "definition" of the word marriage off of a specific religious group's opinion, regardless if that particular group is the "Majority" in our society.

    And with that being said, if I were state dictator for a day, I would allow gay marriages given that,

    A. They were required to be accepted by other states, even if those other did not allow the gay marriages to partake in their states or not.

    B. They had all the equal benefits and restrictions of a normal hetero marriage

    C. No religious institution is required by law to perform a gay marriage if it is against their religious covenant, and they have the right to refuse service to anyone.

    D. The magistrate, however, does not have the right to refuse service to anyone, and must perform the el cheapo marriage for those who seek it.




    EDIT: But since im not the dictator.... and Im not gay..... I could really give a rats ass less.. You won't see me out there with a picket sign in hand demanding gays have equal rights and all that BS. Nor will you see me sayin' "Gay marriage is gonna ruin my marriage!!!"
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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

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    Where Should We Cut Spending If it's not directly related to spending, take it to another thread. There are plenty of places to discuss the purpose of marriage or the definitions of conservative v libertarian.
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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Moderator's Warning:
    Where Should We Cut Spending If it's not directly related to spending, take it to another thread. There are plenty of places to discuss the purpose of marriage or the definitions of conservative v libertarian.
    Fair enough, so I'll say again, this is where should we cut spending:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Everything Obama has don...rescind it.

    Every ****ing bail out, every health care program, everything. Repeal the whole damn administration.
    We can start by cutting this:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/health...h-r-676-a.html (United States National Health Insurance Act-H.R 676)
    Last edited by Jerry; 06-18-09 at 11:49 PM.

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    There goes that Obama supporter reflex again.
    I'm not an Obama supporter.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Most if not all depeartment heads know little or nothing about economics.
    Education is where we should start, and I mean increasing the budget, as necessary..
    Spend money in the right places, cut in the places where its can be done..
    So far, our President has set a bad example....And this is where the cuts should begin..Do away with Air Force One and Two.. An executive jet should suffice.
    But, will my ideas be listened to ?
    Never have yet, the money wasters do not want any change....

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    In all seriousness, there really isn't too much in the federal budget that most people would want to cut or should be cut in my opinion.

    I really think we should get rid of all pure welfare and leave that to the states, as well as reform or even remove medicare/medicaid.

    Sure, there should be cuts in art/public broadcasting because alot of that is substidies... but I like channel 13 and other government broadcasting :P It really is the most "ballanced" media around. Very strange, but great.

    But if you look at the pie chart of spending, there isn't too much immediet work that can be done. Healthcare work will take a while, and no one is exactly sure what can be cut or changed.
    Last edited by nerv14; 06-19-09 at 01:23 PM.

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    In all seriousness, there really isn't too much in the federal budget that most people would want to cut or should be cut in my opinion.
    In reality, the federal budget should be cut by 80%, just to get inside the Constitution again.

    If the free market can support the bull**** programming on PBS, then let it do so. If that programming can't survive without tax dollars, let it follow Howdy-Doody into oblivion.

    If an artist can't sell his schlock crap to a private buyer, there's no reason for the federal government to be buying it. End the art subsidies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Most if not all depeartment heads know little or nothing about economics.
    Education is where we should start, and I mean increasing the budget, as necessary..
    Spend money in the right places, cut in the places where its can be done..
    So far, our President has set a bad example....And this is where the cuts should begin..Do away with Air Force One and Two.. An executive jet should suffice.
    But, will my ideas be listened to ?
    Never have yet, the money wasters do not want any change....
    Hells yeah, education...if a failing student (my brother) can pass the GED in the 95%, there's seriously something wrong with high school.

    Think about it, you only need an 8th grade education to pass the GED, and the GED is "high school equivalent", therefore 8th grade = 12 grade, and you don't really learn anything necessary for life in high school.

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    In reality, the federal budget should be cut by 80%, just to get inside the Constitution again.

    If the free market can support the bull**** programming on PBS, then let it do so. If that programming can't survive without tax dollars, let it follow Howdy-Doody into oblivion.

    If an artist can't sell his schlock crap to a private buyer, there's no reason for the federal government to be buying it. End the art subsidies.
    Well of course you have a point in that there shouldn't be substidies, especially for art. But that is a VERY small part of the budget.

    Even if you won't agree so, most of the other dollars spent in the federal budget are spent towards programs that we should really have.

    There is more leeway for the state's though. Large amounts of welfare and other wasteful programs make more sense to be gotten rid of if people want. The federal budget is pretty limited (in comparison to the whole country's GDP and compared to most other nations)

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    I say cut Arts/public broadcasting , welfare/unemployment , foreign aid, grants for useless studies and other similar things. I would say cut Medicare/Medicaid and social security but everybody pays for with in mind that one day they will use those things.
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