View Poll Results: Where Should We Cut Spending?

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  • Military

    31 40.79%
  • Infrastructure(highways and bridges)

    19 25.00%
  • Social security

    33 43.42%
  • Medicare/Medicaid

    43 56.58%
  • Education

    34 44.74%
  • Arts/public broadcasting

    46 60.53%
  • welfare/unemplyment

    48 63.16%
  • other, please list

    31 40.79%
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Thread: Where Should We Cut Spending

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Not with immature quips like that, no, now we're going to discuss why you couldn't refrain from flaming a couple people who were discussing a relevant tangent
    relevance should be in the eye of the original poster...
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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ...the bodies of their children and family, and the bodies of their employers, and the bodies of those who's they commit crime against to pay for their next fix....

    Drop the lies and we can have a good conversation.
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    ...sex-slave trafficking...
    I don't recall saying "repeal the Thirteenth Amendment". Perhaps you could search my posts and see if I ever recommended that before you start flinging non sequitur's around like a chimpanzee with spare dung, okay?

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    Ruined live from Meth abuse, next....
    Not my life, not my problem.

    Not your life, you're problem if you wish it to be, but you're not allowed to abuse the power of government to make you happy, so you're on your own.

    How about "man shot dead in Compton by El Monte police serving no-knock warrant to wrong address"?

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Legalized hard drugs and legalized prostitution are abuses of liberty.
    Says who?

    Both are victimless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Marriage without intent of producing a family is abuse of liberty.
    So post-menopausal women can't get married in your world view?

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Guys, seriously, can you make your own thread to argue stuff that is not about cutting spending?

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Guys, seriously, can you make your own thread to argue stuff that is not about cutting spending?
    Drugs should be legalized to eliminate the interdiction expenses incurred by the US Coast Guard and the eradication expenses incurred by US military and other forces overseas and the prohibition expenses incurred by the DEA and the local yokel cops and the incarceration expenses of non-violent drug related offenders in US prisons and jails.

    Drug abusers can pay for their own damn rehab, and save the taxpayers money there, too.

    See the relevance now?

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    I'd cut almost every program outside of those specifically authorized by the Constitution, and I'd ramp up military spending.

    Believe it or not, the federal Government was meant to be an agent of the states, and a minor entitiy in the lives of the average citizen.

    How far we've fallen.
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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Drugs should be legalized to eliminate the interdiction expenses incurred by the US Coast Guard and the eradication expenses incurred by US military and other forces overseas and the prohibition expenses incurred by the DEA and the local yokel cops and the incarceration expenses of non-violent drug related offenders in US prisons and jails.

    Drug abusers can pay for their own damn rehab, and save the taxpayers money there, too.

    See the relevance now?
    Mad props for this post. It kills me, and I lean to the liberal side, that our government spends so much money playing nanny and watching over people. If people own their own lives, then they should be free to waste it as long as no one else has to support them. That would save lots of money.

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Yeah, let's go back to the Bush years. Good times and small government.
    There goes that Obama supporter reflex again.

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    I got asked for my views on this, so here we go.

    I voted for each category. I think with how far we are in debt, and the size of the deficit, we have to look everywhere to cut spending. We are past the point of being able to do it the easy way, so now it is going to be hard, but it is needful.

    cutting the military is probably the hardest, but to justify and to accomplish, but it can be done. My favorite example which I have used before is president Bush the elder and the base closure panel that found 10(IIRC) bases that could be closed without compromising the ability to do the missions. The military has to find ways to trim fat to make the whole more healthy. Tell the Pentagon that it has to cut 5 %(or some other amount) from it's budget, they will say it cannot be done. Remind them that it was not a request, and they will find ways. We have very bright people in the military.

    Infrastructure is hard as well, but for different reasons. Right now it does help provide needed jobs. Hopefully by the time cuts would take effect, unemployment in the country will be down(side not, Michigan topped 14 % unemployment with the numbers released today). Some spending is needed, but it needs to be stepped way back for awhile.

    Social Security will raise howls of protest from older people, but those same people allowed the deficit and debt get to where it is today, so they have no one but themselves to blame.

    Medicare/Medicaid is the one I am most torn on. Screwing with insurance for those who need it most is not nice, but there has to be ways to make these programs more efficient, without eliminating/reducing service.

    Speaking of being torn, spending money on education is one of the best investments a government can make. However, right now we cannot afford to invest much, and so some cuts are going to be needed. New computers or whatever is going to have to wait a couple years.

    I have no problem with the government funding arts when we can afford it. That time is not now. Sorry arts, in my government, you get no money when we have a deficit. PBS stays, but it needs to improve on fund raising from the public.

    Cutting welfare and unemployment at the current time is just wrong, but as soon as feasible, has to happen.

    We need to find ways to streamline the bureaucracy(thank god for spellchecker), and make government offices more efficient. We have to cut across the board, and cut hard, and keep cutting until the deficit is gone, and the debt is gone.

    This is not going to happen in my lifetime, but it is what I think should happen. We have to stop putting problems off for the next generation. it's what every president in my lifetime about has done, and it's not working.

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    Re: Where Should We Cut Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Says who?
    Says Switzerland, the UN, the US People, the CDC, and oh yeah, the True Debate I won on prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    So post-menopausal women can't get married in your world view?
    I wouldn't stand in the way of such a ban, no.

    Marriage was always about raising children, childless couples were seen as benign exceptions, but if we need to ban those benign exceptions to protect the rule then so be it.

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