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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Don't know.

    I expect tourists to be milked for every dollar they can be had for. That's what the species exists for.

    Why would tourism be "socialist"?
    Because you want a government-funded space program because it could establish tourism. For someone who spends so much time bitching about constitutional originalism and the use of taxpayer dollars for things not specifically mentioned in the Constitution, you have no difficulty ignoring your own philosophy when it's YOUR pet program on the chopping block. Where is subsidizing the tourism industry in the US Constitution again? Hypocrite.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Because you want a government-funded space program because it could establish tourism.
    No.

    I was listing the military and economic benefits of space travel.

    Just in case you missed it, tourists would be expected to pay full fare.

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    I was listing the military and economic benefits of space travel.

    Just in case you missed it, tourists would be expected to pay full fare.
    You made the asinine list of benefits in response to Ikari's question about the benefits of funding space travel as opposed to REAL scientific research. Obviously you were insinuating, then, that NASA should be funded.

    So let's just clear up the confusion then: Do you or do you not want the government to fund NASA?
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Public perception severely underestimates the value that NASA provides to our nation and our economy. From another thread
    I know I am a bit late, but I just want to reiterate this point. There is no end to the advancements that have come from aspiring to the stars. The technology created by overshooting current needs here on earth has been more than a return on the investment.

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    I support research and development because rivals in other countries are doing the same, but not space travel. The launches into space are spewing enough chemicals into the air to damage human societies, and they're just expensive. Sustainability is necessary for cheaper research programs in space. I'm also against humanity's exploration of the stars in person at this time because we are not socially developed enough. I would not want to inflict our primitive ways upon the rest of the universe. The idea of human colonies, for this reason, is preposterous to me.

    When we solve material problems on the ground level, which are essentially the cause of most wars, as well as our tendency to fight over gods and philosophies, we will be in a better position to explore space more extensively. Space has no bearing on those things. It will kill us indiscriminately.

    Our sun will go nova in a few billion years. That's the amount of time we have to get off this rock, assuming we even survive the tragedy of the commons we are now creating.

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    I don't think it's necessary per se (at least right now), but I do support it.

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    The ROI is a mere fraction and even that is exaggerated by the PR branch of NASA. Considering we have no propulsion system that will approach the speed of light, manned space travel is not in our foreseeable future, not for a thousand years at least. Even at the speed of light, it will take years to get to a habitable planet, as there are NONE in our solar system.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Edify_Always_In_All_Ways View Post
    Kind of cool how a Democratic president was the one who pushed so hard for us to get to the moon, then, huh? I guess they're not all taskmasters or loafers.

    The space program is absolutely necessary, both for the innovation it brings and because if we don't colonize space, someone else will and they're going to have the first crack at the infinite resources that lie beyond our atmosphere. I would absolutely die happy if I lived long enough to see the Doomsday clock disabled as we spread into space, and maybe even to see Enrico Fermi's paradox fade away as we found another intelligent life form.

    Fermi paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Of course, without public schools we're not going to have many educated colonists, but that's a whole other ball game. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin both graduated from public high schools.
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