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Thread: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    We don't have the technology currently to get people onto the moon. So that has to be developed. Getting **** into space is one thing, we have that. Getting humans onto planets and natural satellites is another.

    The moon mining may be something achievable eventually...maybe. As I say, don't hold your breath because a lot of **** has to be researched and developed to make that go. It's not cheap, no matter how much you wish to make that claim. Mining asteroids will not happen. Pure fantasy.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We don't have the technology currently to get people onto the moon. So that has to be developed. Getting **** into space is one thing, we have that. Getting humans onto planets and natural satellites is another.

    The moon mining may be something achievable eventually...maybe. As I say, don't hold your breath because a lot of **** has to be researched and developed to make that go. It's not cheap, no matter how much you wish to make that claim. Mining asteroids will not happen. Pure fantasy.
    Actually there is a concept that has been looked at by NASA, of using a possibly-unmanned robotic craft to intercept a NEO (near earth asteroid), attach a long-thrust motor to it (like an ion rocket), and move it to Earth orbit where it could be more easily mined of rare elements and valuable minerals. I got to look at the plans and schematics one time...very intresting, and it could probably be done at a profit, given an asteroid of the right composition in a suitable orbit.

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Actually there is a concept that has been looked at by NASA, of using a possibly-unmanned robotic craft to intercept a NEO (near earth asteroid), attach a long-thrust motor to it (like an ion rocket), and move it to Earth orbit where it could be more easily mined of rare elements and valuable minerals. I got to look at the plans and schematics one time...very intresting, and it could probably be done at a profit, given an asteroid of the right composition in a suitable orbit.

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    So they're going to make robots that can fly through space and attach thrusters to asteroids (ion rockets won't work, those are low force long time duration devices, you'd need to be able to exert more control over an asteroid particularly when it comes closer to the Earth's gravitational field than can be generation with ion thrust) and move those asteroids into an orbit around the earth that won't, you know, degrade and crash into the earth long enough for people (or I guess robots at this point) to mine the asteroid clean of all it's valuables and jettison the rocky carcass away from earth and all this won't have any negative side effects. K. Let me know when you get to this.

    BTW, I think it's a very poor idea to move asteroids closer to earth. If anything, we should push them away.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    It's been a long time since I looked at the plan, I may have forgotten some of the details, like whether ion motors were involved.

    Agreed that there are some risks, and that it isn't something we'd want to do without careful consideration of all ramifications...just saying that it was considered do-able by some Nasa engineers.

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    It's been a long time since I looked at the plan, I may have forgotten some of the details, like whether ion motors were involved.

    Agreed that there are some risks, and that it isn't something we'd want to do without careful consideration of all ramifications...just saying that it was considered do-able by some Nasa engineers.
    Yeah...I think I'd rather fund medical technologies, base science, and some other engineering than that. It seems to me that those areas will yield results which have a much better probability of positively affecting my life.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah...I think I'd rather fund medical technologies, base science, and some other engineering than that. It seems to me that those areas will yield results which have a much better probability of positively affecting my life.
    Which gets funded all the time. NASA's budget is minuscule compared to say, the defense departments?

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We don't have the technology currently to get people onto the moon. So that has to be developed. Getting **** into space is one thing, we have that. Getting humans onto planets and natural satellites is another. .
    How can we not have the technology to get people to the moon when we have already landed people on the moon. I am extremely confused...
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    It's been a long time since I looked at the plan, I may have forgotten some of the details, like whether ion motors were involved.

    Agreed that there are some risks, and that it isn't something we'd want to do without careful consideration of all ramifications...just saying that it was considered do-able by some Nasa engineers.
    I have read about this as well. In addition to nano tech robots such the Pluto Express

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 128shot View Post
    Which gets funded all the time. NASA's budget is minuscule compared to say, the defense departments?
    Odds of NASA having to fend off an alien attack, next to zero.....
    Odds of us needing our defense department to "export democracy" to a "grateful" third world country with oil, very high....
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    First, it is logical that we repair, and up-grade travel here on earth..It 's a mess and can be improved...., but this may not happen until more intelligent people are in the right places...

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