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Thread: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    you are mixing posts....
    I said that some people give NASA credit for things they never did, and you say NASA agrees, so how is it a lie? Just because YOU never heard it doesn't mean it was never said.....
    "A good deal of what NASA brags about were in existence long before NASA came into existence, but they try to claim ALL the credit." - UtahBill

    Not according to your own words in this post...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058101489 (Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?)

    To which I replied directly here...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058101519 (Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?)

    So yes you lied.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Some very ignorant people hear something and repeat it, thinking that somehow they are just as right as the person they heard it from, but in fact they are just as wrong.
    And yet you have posted little of relevance to the thread or subject at hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Yeah, tell me what private schools you attended, so I can make sure none of my grandkids attend them....
    I guess sarcasm is lost on you? Par for the course.


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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    still no answers, what are you afraid of?
    Because it is off topic and has no relevance to anything in this thread. I guess you are having trouble with understanding that?


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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It used to be oiltech.com, but they've been sold and traded etc etc, and Shell Oil had developed an in situ method of oil extraction, again for roughly $30 bucks, and this would be eight or nine years ago.

    And, no, it wouldn't be happening, not when the following real scenario happens:

    GW Bush urges Congress to lift it's ban on domestic drilling and oil exploration.

    But forgets to countermand his own EO forbidding same.

    Congress under the Messiah has been further limiting oil shale resource licenses...

    ...and it's quite apparent that none of the people who have the authority to make the US energy independent want to do so.

    ...just like neither Dems nor Repubs want to stop illegal immigration. They're getting something by selling American citizens down the river in both cases.

    Technical merit and morality and national need count for nothing against political greed.

    And this is why I would not object to a private fund for building good solid brick walls all over Washington and wherever politicians may be found, that, and a national stockpile of tar and feathers.
    a rational use of tar and feathers, I agree.....
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    "A good deal of what NASA brags about were in existence long before NASA came into existence, but they try to claim ALL the credit." - UtahBill

    Not according to your own words in this post...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058101489 (Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?)

    To which I replied directly here...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058101519 (Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?)

    So yes you lied.



    And yet you have posted little of relevance to the thread or subject at hand.



    I guess sarcasm is lost on you? Par for the course.
    no, didn't lie.....you need to use post numbers...
    read post 10....
    the way the PR people praise NASA belittles the actual inventors of many technologies.
    The LED was invented long before NASA, the PV cell likewise, and freeze dried food was known to ancient peruvians....
    But the uninformed and the ignorant want to give NASA credit for the application of existing technology....
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    no, didn't lie.....you need to use post numbers...
    read post 10....
    the way the PR people praise NASA belittles the actual inventors of many technologies.
    According to NASA's own website this is not true at all. They have gone out of the way to make certain people know the difference.

    You have not posted anything to show otherwise.

    What numbers? I gave you direct links to the posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The LED was invented long before NASA, the PV cell likewise, and freeze dried food was known to ancient peruvians....
    But the uninformed and the ignorant want to give NASA credit for the application of existing technology....
    The ignorant I agree could do this, but the fact is you also said NASA did this:

    "A good deal of what NASA brags about were in existence long before NASA came into existence, but they try to claim ALL the credit." - UtahBill

    You are trying to say you did not say this, when it is pretty clear you did.


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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    "A good deal of what NASA brags about were in existence long before NASA came into existence, but they try to claim ALL the credit." - UtahBill

    Not according to your own words in this post...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058101489 (Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?)

    To which I replied directly here...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058101519 (Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?)

    So yes you lied.



    And yet you have posted little of relevance to the thread or subject at hand.



    I guess sarcasm is lost on you? Par for the course.
    I said....A good deal of what NASA brags about were in existence long before NASA came into existence, but they try to claim ALL the credit.
    Last time this came up on DP, someone actually suggested that TANG and VELCRO were invented by NASA....



    The underlined part is an error on my part, NASA itself is careful to be more accurate, but post 10 is a quote from wikipedia, and if NASA wants to be accurate, they should correct wikipedia....

    The bolded part is what happens when the average person doesn't do their own research. NASA is given credit by others for things they did not do...
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I said....A good deal of what NASA brags about were in existence long before NASA came into existence, but they try to claim ALL the credit.
    Last time this came up on DP, someone actually suggested that TANG and VELCRO were invented by NASA....

    The underlined part is an error on my part, NASA itself is careful to be more accurate, but post 10 is a quote from wikipedia, and if NASA wants to be accurate, they should correct wikipedia....
    Wikipedia is not always accurate although they do try. NASA probably does not spend a great deal of time making certain wkipedia is accurate, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The bolded part is what happens when the average person doesn't do their own research. NASA is given credit by others for things they did not do...
    I agree.

    I just don't understand what this had to do with my initial argument.


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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    According to NASA's own website this is not true at all. They have gone out of the way to make certain people know the difference.

    You have not posted anything to show otherwise.

    What numbers? I gave you direct links to the posts.



    The ignorant I agree could do this, but the fact is you also said NASA did this:

    "A good deal of what NASA brags about were in existence long before NASA came into existence, but they try to claim ALL the credit." - UtahBill

    You are trying to say you did not say this, when it is pretty clear you did.
    you are correct, sometimes I type faster than I think...the second part is the message I mean to convey.
    Fact remains, all of the spinoff of technology combined does not justify manned space travel. It is a tremendous waste of money to be seeking another planet to live on while we are still so ignorant of how to take care of the ONLY planet we have...
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Wikipedia is not always accurate although they do try. NASA probably does not spend a great deal of time making certain wkipedia is accurate, lol.



    I agree.

    I just don't understand what this had to do with my initial argument.
    whatever that is/was....
    later, it is my bedtime...
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    you are correct, sometimes I type faster than I think...the second part is the message I mean to convey.
    Fact remains, all of the spinoff of technology combined does not justify manned space travel.
    I think it does, but we can agree to disagree as it is subjective.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    It is a tremendous waste of money to be seeking another planet to live on while we are still so ignorant of how to take care of the ONLY planet we have...
    I don't see it as looking for another planet to live on. I see it more a an investment in our long term future whether that involves saving this world or moving to another remains to be seen.


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