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Thread: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Poll 38 to 6 in favor of continuing. Motion carried, manned exploration of space will continue.


    Seriously, are none of you opposers excited about the idea of a new frontier to colonize? If not for yourself and your kids, for your grandkids or great-great's?
    Sure. But being excited about the idea of a new frontier is not a sufficient justification for the enormous pricetag associated with manned missions to other worlds, for which the taxpayers get nothing in return.

    There will indeed be a new space frontier to colonize. I just question why we need to colonize it right now.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Y'all talk like none of that could have been developed outside of NASA. NASA happens to get a lot of money, well more than the NSF and other scientific funding agencies. They have come up with many great things, but many of those things would have also been developed in other labs if NASA hadn't done it themselves.
    I agree. But they weren't. Credit where its due.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnjoel View Post
    I agree. But they weren't. Credit where its due.
    exactly, and NASA is given far more credit than it deserves....
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    If something happens to threaten the planet and we have no options the human race is dead. The most important task that humankind can have is to find a way off this rock and settle another one. It was an asinine waste of time to spend all we did to get to the moon if we even did get there and stop going there.

    Why do we fail to see the future and doom ourselves to the limits of stupidity and waste. Humanity settles that war is always the answer and will always be. They also say Utopia is an unattainable dream. The human mind limits its own failure by accepting defeat before it even starts.

    Space travel should be what all of mankind is about.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    exactly, and NASA is given far more credit than it deserves....
    I disagree with that. I think they get the exact credit they deserve, but sometimes with excess. I grew up with a parent working for NASA for 35 years and have some familiarity with the organization.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    If something happens to threaten the planet and we have no options the human race is dead.
    Exactly. We better be prepared to deal with something like Apophis. [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophis_asteroid]99942 Apophis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    The most important task that humankind can have is to find a way off this rock and settle another one.
    In the short to medium term, it would be more efficient to colonize the oceans in some way. Vast potential there that is being inefficiently utilized.

    It was an asinine waste of time to spend all we did to get to the moon if we even did get there and stop going there.
    It was a pissing contest between America and the USSR, primarily. But we shouldn't forget that things like the race to the moon does foster innovation, albeit not necessarily efficiently.

    Why do we fail to see the future and doom ourselves to the limits of stupidity and waste. Humanity settles that war is always the answer and will always be. They also say Utopia is an unattainable dream. The human mind limits its own failure by accepting defeat before it even starts.

    Space travel should be what all of mankind is about.
    Utopia may be impossible, but technology plus wisdom could get us pretty close.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnjoel View Post
    I disagree with that. I think they get the exact credit they deserve, but sometimes with excess. I grew up with a parent working for NASA for 35 years and have some familiarity with the organization.
    so you have no direct knowledge or bias?
    I worked with engineers at a govt owned nuclear research lab....they tend to waste money proving what they already know.
    Our tax dollars can better be spent repairing the crumbling infrastructure that is all around us....
    or better yet, working on developing alternative ways to satisfy the nation's energy needs...
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    so you have no direct knowledge or bias?
    I worked with engineers at a govt owned nuclear research lab....they tend to waste money proving what they already know.
    Every single government program falls under that category. It is a problem with most governments.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Our tax dollars can better be spent repairing the crumbling infrastructure that is all around us....
    or better yet, working on developing alternative ways to satisfy the nation's energy needs...
    I would be willing to bet that new energy alternatives will happen based on something coming out of NASA.

    Well what do you know, it is already happening...

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    I fully support our space program. Or any space program for that matter.


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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Every single government program falls under that category. It is a problem with most governments.



    I would be willing to bet that new energy alternatives will happen based on something coming out of NASA.

    Well what do you know, it is already happening...

    NASA - Wind Energy Research Reaps Rewards

    Department of Energy - NASA and DOE Collaborate on Dark Energy Research

    Renewable Energy Microgrid Research Workshop at NASA Ames | Jack Baskin School of Engineering | UC Santa Cruz

    I fully support our space program. Or any space program for that matter.
    The problem with government is that they can't let go of programs they start. As long as the knot heads in Congress have a say on how money is spent there is no program that will work.
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    Re: Space travel. Is it necessary? Do you support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    The problem with government is that they can't let go of programs they start. As long as the knot heads in Congress have a say on how money is spent there is no program that will work.
    Thats all well and good, but makes little difference. We work within the system we have, end of story.


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