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  • Need more sanctions against N.Korea

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  • Instead, order an attack on N.Korea

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Thread: New sanctions on N.Korea

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    New sanctions on N.Korea

    FT.com / Asia-Pacific - N Korea responds to UN with nuclear threats


    UN Security Council imposes New sanctions on N.Korea.
    Resolution 1874 provides a strong and united international response to North Korea. In relation to this, N. Korea responded to UN sanctions by claiming its program to develop nuclear weapons-grade enriched uranium had reached an experimental stage.

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    Re: New sanctions on N.Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by xomputer View Post
    FT.com / Asia-Pacific - N Korea responds to UN with nuclear threats


    UN Security Council imposes New sanctions on N.Korea.
    Resolution 1874 provides a strong and united international response to North Korea. In relation to this, N. Korea responded to UN sanctions by claiming its program to develop nuclear weapons-grade enriched uranium had reached an experimental stage.
    We should nip the problem in the bud. **** it, and attack the bastards with everything we have in place. 24 hour prep. No way they will be ready. Kill there top leaders with B-2's and **** up their Air Force with our Raptors in Kadena, Japan.
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    Re: New sanctions on N.Korea

    I went with the sanctions because to directly attack NK is going to create two problems. One, the Chinese will immediately condemn the U.S. and throw support behind DPRK. Two, NK will immediately attack South Korea and we will be entrenched in another war.

    China is watching over NK and whether we like it or not, we are not ready for war with China.

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    Re: New sanctions on N.Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I went with the sanctions because to directly attack NK is going to create two problems. One, the Chinese will immediately condemn the U.S. and throw support behind DPRK. Two, NK will immediately attack South Korea and we will be entrenched in another war.

    China is watching over NK and whether we like it or not, we are not ready for war with China.
    Not necessarily. China has also repeatedly said that it condemns their communist friend's activity. As much as China might want to stick with N. Korea, economically they can't. We buy all their stuff, and their economy isn't self-sustaining yet. Once it is, then they would be more likely to go against us. And China, along with Russia has moved a ton of Armor to their border with N. Korea, and they have said they want to be ready for anything the N. Koreans do. While they might condemn us for wiping out the Command and Control of North Korea, they might just sweep in, and take over the N. Korean land for themselves. China does not want an open world war on their doorstep, because the last time that happened, the countries along the Frontlines ( Britain, France, Germany, Russia) had immense destruction of their country. No, they won't want us to start carpet bombing their factories, and cities.

    And if our first-strike is good enough, the North Korean's might just be to confused to launch an attack against us for say a week or 2. In which time, we can get ready for ourselves. If we maintain Strategic Surprise.
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    Re: New sanctions on N.Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    We should nip the problem in the bud. **** it, and attack the bastards with everything we have in place. 24 hour prep. No way they will be ready. Kill there top leaders with B-2's and **** up their Air Force with our Raptors in Kadena, Japan.
    Just curious, but do you know what type of casualities South Korea would face with an attack like that?

    In all seriousness, if we could take out most N Korean missle sites before they launch them, then I may support an attack on North Korea. I just don't have much info on our predictions about how effective an invasion would be.

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    Re: New sanctions on N.Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    Just curious, but do you know what type of casualities South Korea would face with an attack like that?

    In all seriousness, if we could take out most N Korean missle sites before they launch them, then I may support an attack on North Korea. I just don't have much info on our predictions about how effective an invasion would be.
    Yeah, the North Koreans can shell the crap out of Seoul 10 minutes into the fight, plus chemical weapons, but that is if they manage to coordinate themselves. If we can take out their Command and Control chain, then they will be temporarily blinded. Our B-2's can massacre any SAM Sites we find, and then clear the way for F-117's and B-52's. Kill all their launch sites ( the B-2 and B-52 each can take out 20 targets, each plane) and force them to surrender. Of cours, this is if we maintain Strategic Surprise.
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    Re: New sanctions on N.Korea

    We could absolutely kill NK within days. This ain't no Saddam Huissein or "nation-building" mission we are on like in Iraq. We could **** that country into a tiny ****load of pieces within DAYS, or even less. Just ****ing bomb Pyongyang with everyhting we ****ing got. **** their entire military. They have the largest military in the world(because they are damn communist-militarist state), if we destroy it all, they will have NOTHING. **** em **** em ****ing GODDAMNIT **** EM UP! NOOOOOWW!!!!!!
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    Re: New sanctions on N.Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    We could absolutely kill NK within days. This ain't no Saddam Huissein or "nation-building" mission we are on like in Iraq. We could **** that country into a tiny ****load of pieces within DAYS, or even less. Just bomb Pyongyang with everyhting we got. Destroy their entire military. They have the largest military in the world, if we destroy it all, they will have NOTHING. **** em **** **** GODDAMNIT **** EM UP! NOOOOOWW!!!!!!
    lol

    If anything, we would just leave the nation building to South Korea, so I doubt it would be a simillar situation to Iraq. I am sure South Korea would agree that THEY want to have control of North Korea instead of us, so it would require pretty limited work on our part.

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    Re: New sanctions on N.Korea

    Its kinda pointless though. As Thomas Friedman said, "No two countries that both had McDonald's had fought a war against each other since each got its McDonald's".

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    Re: New sanctions on N.Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Not necessarily. China has also repeatedly said that it condemns their communist friend's activity. As much as China might want to stick with N. Korea, economically they can't. We buy all their stuff, and their economy isn't self-sustaining yet. Once it is, then they would be more likely to go against us. And China, along with Russia has moved a ton of Armor to their border with N. Korea, and they have said they want to be ready for anything the N. Koreans do. While they might condemn us for wiping out the Command and Control of North Korea, they might just sweep in, and take over the N. Korean land for themselves. China does not want an open world war on their doorstep, because the last time that happened, the countries along the Frontlines ( Britain, France, Germany, Russia) had immense destruction of their country. No, they won't want us to start carpet bombing their factories, and cities.

    And if our first-strike is good enough, the North Korean's might just be to confused to launch an attack against us for say a week or 2. In which time, we can get ready for ourselves. If we maintain Strategic Surprise.
    What China says and the actions they take are two different things. If China was so appalled by the behavior of North Korea they have several tools at their disposal to keep them in line. China is the main supplier of food, oil, and raw materials to NK, yet they use non eof these things as leverage. Nor do the Chinese take any steps other than verbal condemnation. Why? China like having a loud, communist regime next door to challenge the U.S. every now and again.

    North Korea is a buffer zone to the U.S. in South Korea and the reason both China and Russia are beefing-up security is because they both fear a U.S. strike on NK that would lead to the pouring-in of millions of NK refugees that neither nation wants. Nor does China believe in foreign intervention into the domestic matters of a soverign nation. To do so would make their assertions over Taiwan and Tibet being domestic matters, moot points.

    In regards to the Chinese dependence on U.S. consumerism, the U.S. is completely depended on China for everything we use. Like junkies we have nowhere else to go as the majority of our consumables are produced in China. And lets not forget the fact that China owns $5 trillion in U.S. debt, that if called in, would bankrupt the U.S. economy.

    Check-out my post under Asia-Central on the Shanghai Organization-Corporation, China is making very long strides in relieving any dependence on the U.S., as it knows it's economy will bypass ours very soon.

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