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A question for people who don't smoke

Should marijuana be legalized?

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Jerry said:
One of the very few good things coming out of the Lakota Nation (and believe me, it's a short list) is cheap tobacco products. Yeah, you have to go to the reservation to buy, which is where exercising your right to keep and carry comes in, but you can walk out with a carton for about $15-20.

As a side note, one of the other few quality products the Lakota Nation produces for sale is choice jail bait, but that's another story.
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I miss the days when I was in the Navy, and we could at times get cartons of smokes at sea for 4 dollars a carton. They had that sale right before getting home once. I took 2 sea bags full of cigarettes off the ship then.
 
Zyphlin said:
So are you also in favor of re-establishing prohibition? Evere seen people drunk? I've seen enough friends fall to pieces on alcohol, don't need to have it explained ot me how its harmless and better than "X" or "Y".

Why are you against allowing one substance to stop being banned by the government, but not for a similar one to be taken off the shelves?
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Well, its kind of the slippery slope dont ya think?

If you know alcohol isnt good for you either, then why would you want to allow the legalization of other drugs that do nothing but harm people?

Just b/c 1 is legal, means you have to legalize all? That doesnt make any sense to me. I would rather draw a line in the sand at alcohol, then to continously move that line b/c someone thinks someone else is a hypocrit.

Sorry, but if being labeled a hypocrit is the best someone can do, then so be it. Life goes on.

All the folks I know who are on drugs are worthless people who complain about working or are now divorced.

Drugs ruin lives, whether it is alcohol, heroin, or dope.

This entire arguement in my mind, is one of feeling better about not considering ourselves hypocrits b/c alcohol is legal and pot isnt, so therefore people want to legalize all drugs.

I am sorry, I just dont care to live in a society where condoning such things is OK. I say draw the line at alcohol, b/c that has ruined enough lives, why start down a whole new path of misery with another drug? And then another drug, then another drug, etc, etc.

I find an overwhelming correlation b/w immature adults and drug use. This is from personal experience from friends I have lost due to drugs and friends who are now dead thanks to drugs.

There is nothing good that comes along with using drugs.
 
Jerry said:
So you see it as a right to privacy issue?
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Not really, but I can go with it. I see it as the right to do whatever you wish with your own body. My body does not belong to the Nanny state. So if I want to smoke pot it's really no one else's business provided I am not harming their life, liberty or property.
 
stekim said:
Not really, but I can go with it. I see it as the right to do whatever you wish with your own body. My body does not belong to the Nanny state. So if I want to smoke pot it's really no one else's business provided I am not harming their life, liberty or property.
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How is defending the right to privacy not everyone's business?

Sure, what you personally choose to do with your individual body is not for public consumption unless you choose, but since everyone has to abide by the same rules, how are those rules not everyone's business?
 
Jerry said:
How is defending the right to privacy not everyone's business?
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It should be. But apparently some people don't think I have a right to privacy.

Sure, what you personally choose to do with your individual body is not for public consumption unless you choose, but since everyone has to abide by the same rules, how are those rules not everyone's business?
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Not sure what you mean. "Rules" that tell me what I can and cannot do to me are immoral.
 
Re: Non-smokers: Your views on marijuana

Marilyn Monroe said:
I'm pretty sure the Beatles smoked dope. You talking about acting this way while smoking or after effects?
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The aftereffects of long term habitual use. It impairs your cognitive abilities for much longer than the initial high, and users tend to indulge several times within the period it takes for the drug to clear their system. This leads to progressive impairment over time, and inhibits habitual behaviors that rely on clear and/or concentrated thought.

Marilyn Monroe said:
What you may be speaking of is being mellow, and I'm all for it.
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It is impairment, and in most cases leads to a preference for habitual impairment.
 
Redress said:
Like seat belt laws?
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Seat belt laws should be repealed except for children under the age of consent. It's not the state's business.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Not so much a fan of seatbelt and helmet laws. If people want to provide supporting evidence for social darwinism, more power to them.
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It is in the interest of society that stupid people die early.
 
stekim said:
Seat belt laws should be repealed except for children under the age of consent. It's not the state's business.
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What if those laws saved lives?

EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't see that you wanted a holocaust of the unintelligent. Carry on.
 
Dav said:
Nevermind, I didn't see that you wanted a holocaust of the unintelligent. Carry on.
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How is a self-inflicted injury a holocaust?

Nice hyperbole.

(epic fail in argumentation, though)
 
Catz Part Deux said:
How is a self-inflicted injury a holocaust?

Nice hyperbole.

(epic fail in argumentation, though)
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I was actually responding to this post:

stekim said:
It is in the interest of society that stupid people die early.
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In other words, not only is it acceptable that unintelligent people die young, but it's beneficial and possibly necessary.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
How is a self-inflicted injury a holocaust?

Nice hyperbole.

(epic fail in argumentation, though)
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Although I do support active killing of stupid people. Just to be clear.
 
stekim said:
Seat belt laws should be repealed except for children under the age of consent. It's not the state's business.
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I would go along with that with one condition: if you are not wearing a seatbelt and get injured, you pay your own medical bills out of your pocket. Insurance does not cover it.
 
Dav said:
In other words, not only is it acceptable that unintelligent people die young, but it's beneficial and possibly necessary.
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Well, yeah. They're outbreeding us. It's the only way to keep things in balance.
 
Dav said:
I was actually responding to this post:



In other words, not only is it acceptable that unintelligent people die young, but it's beneficial and possibly necessary.
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Hell yes it is.
 
Redress said:
I would go along with that with one condition: if you are not wearing a seatbelt and get injured, you pay your own medical bills out of your pocket. Insurance does not cover it.
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That is up to the insurance company. But should we do the same for people who eat like crap, smoke, drink, or otherwise engage in risky behavior?
 
Catz Part Deux said:
I prefer norplanting them from a distance. More humane.
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You're soft. But that's cool. But consider this my furry little *****: stupid people are still quite dangerous even when sterile.
 
stekim said:
That is up to the insurance company. But should we do the same for people who eat like crap, smoke, drink, or otherwise engage in risky behavior?
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How much of the six dollars a pack I pay for cigarettes is just for that?
 
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