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A question for people who don't smoke

Should marijuana be legalized?

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TheHat said:
No, I am against it.

We are already a pill popping, prescription drug taking, recreational drug overkill society.

We are the wealthiest, yet most chemical dependent nation on the face of the planet.

We dont need more pill popping, prescription drug taking, recreational drug using sickos running the streets legally.

If 2nd hand smoke is bad for you, then what is 2nd hand pot smoke gonna be?

Its to bad adults cant simply be adults and live a life without chemical dependency.

Legalizing drugs isnt going to solve anything. Ever seen people on drugs? I have seen enough friends fall to pieces on drugs, dont need to have it explained to me how its harmless and better then "X" or "Y".
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So are you also in favor of re-establishing prohibition? Evere seen people drunk? I've seen enough friends fall to pieces on alcohol, don't need to have it explained ot me how its harmless and better than "X" or "Y".

Why are you against allowing one substance to stop being banned by the government, but not for a similar one to be taken off the shelves?

aps said:
We all know that I am a cigarette hater, but for whatever reason, I don't hate marijuana smoke. In fact, I like the smell of marijuana smoke. I DO NOT smoke it. I tried it when I was much, much younger (last time was before I graduated high school (1986)--a total of 3 times). I have zero interest in doing it now.

I would support legalizing marijuana. The illegalization is costing our government and people's lives way too much.
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So, really, your issue isn't that cigerettes interfere with your right to be free of the smoke and the health risk. Your issue is that YOU don't like that smoke, so it should be illegal. And because you like marijuana smoke, if it was legalized, smoking it in public shouldn't be subject to the same rules as cigerette smoke?
 
Zyphlin said:
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So, really, your issue isn't that cigerettes interfere with your right to be free of the smoke and the health risk. Your issue is that YOU don't like that smoke, so it should be illegal. And because you like marijuana smoke, if it was legalized, smoking it in public shouldn't be subject to the same rules as cigerette smoke?
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My issues with cigarette smoke are long and have been laid out in detail throughout this message board. I didn't care to discuss all of those issues.

Based on my experience working for a federal judge in Laredo, Texas, this was back in 1994, I thought marijuana should be legalized. As things have gotten only worse, I stand by that thought processes. The fact that I don't hate the smell of marijuana only adds a touch of support, but not the reason I support it in the first place. And, yes, it should be subject to the SAME rules as cigarette smoke. The only thing is if I get a whiff of it, I won't be pissed off like I am when I get a whiff of cigarette smoke.
 
I don't smoke anything, but I am in favor of legalizing marijuana and treating it like alcohol.

I don't understand why we are allowed to smoke cigarettes and the horrible things contained therein while smoking a mostly natural herb is illegal.
 
It's really just none of my business what other people do. It's just that simple.
 
I simply think America has gotten to the point of having too many people who smoke marijuana to label all of them criminals.
 
Badgered Mushroom said:
I don't smoke anything, but I am in favor of legalizing marijuana and treating it like alcohol.

I don't understand why we are allowed to smoke cigarettes and the horrible things contained therein while smoking a mostly natural herb is illegal.
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If they legalize it, understand that the industry will treat it like cigarettes, in the way of additives and poisons.

Sure, some people will roll their own, but how long did rolling your own tobacco cigarettes last with most people?
 
Redress said:
Being high will definitely impair your ability to drive. Losing your job is much worse for you than getting into a bar fight.
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Oh my God I am so sick of hearing people say they can drive better high. Not a single person would say that about being drunk.

We need some HONEST education of drugs in the classroom, not the fear mongering **** we have now or the stupidity won't end.
 
Dav said:
Oh my God I am so sick of hearing people say they can drive better high. Not a single person would say that about being drunk.

We need some HONEST education of drugs in the classroom, not the fear mongering **** we have now or the stupidity won't end.
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Now that I back 100 %. Education about drugs and the real dangers inherent would do the world a ton of good.
 
Dav said:
I simply think America has gotten to the point of having too many people who smoke marijuana to label all of them criminals.
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One could make the exact same argument about driving drunk. So many people do it at one point or another in their lives that we're really beyond the point of labeling them all criminals.

;)
 
Grateful Heart said:
One could make the exact same argument about driving drunk. So many people do it at one point or another in their lives that we're really beyond the point of labeling them all criminals.

;)
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It also has to do with it not being a particularly harmful drug. If very few people used it, I wouldn't mind it being illegal. If many people used it, and it was as bad as heroin, I wouldn't mind it being illegal. When many people use it and it's not very harmful, so many people are being labeled "criminal" that they might as well move on to more harmful drugs. I was basically against legalization until I realized that many people I knew who smoked marijuana were starting to get into other drugs, possibly because they were already criminals anyways, so why not?
 
Grateful Heart said:
One could make the exact same argument about driving drunk. So many people do it at one point or another in their lives that we're really beyond the point of labeling them all criminals.

;)
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What a lame comparison.

A minority of people drive drunk and alcohol is not illegal. We don't respond to that minority by illegalizing the substance, we simply punish the people who are responsible for the wreckless behaviour.

Similarly, the majority of people who smoke pot are not going to endanger the public, mostly by the very virtue of the drug itself. Pot smokers are some of the most innocuous people I've ever met.
 
Orius said:
What a lame comparison.

A minority of people drive drunk and alcohol is not illegal. We don't respond to that minority by illegalizing the substance, we simply punish the people who are responsible for the wreckless behaviour.

Similarly, the majority of people who smoke pot are not going to endanger the public, mostly by the very virtue of the drug itself. Pot smokers are some of the most innocuous people I've ever met.
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Oh SNAP!! He broke out the anti-gun-control argument on your ass!!
 
Jerry said:
If they legalize it, understand that the industry will treat it like cigarettes, in the way of additives and poisons.

Sure, some people will roll their own, but how long did rolling your own tobacco cigarettes last with most people?
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It all depends on whether or not personal grows are allowed. You can still buy tobacco to roll it yourself but all that tobacco is industry made. You're not allowed to grow it yourself.

I don't think many people grew tobacco for their personal use before it became a controlled substance. Pot is different in that a large number of people grow it even while it's illegal. If they try to control it by outlawing grows, it won't work. The grow ops will continue.

Still, the government and industry could make a profit off of it. Look at CA. Even with all of the undeclared grow ops happening and the FDA continuing their raids, it is still netting the state hundreds of millions per annum. This is a cash cow just waiting to be milked.
 
Orius said:
It all depends on whether or not personal grows are allowed. You can still buy tobacco to roll it yourself but all that tobacco is industry made. You're not allowed to grow it yourself.

I don't think many people grew tobacco for their personal use before it became a controlled substance. Pot is different in that a large number of people grow it even while it's illegal. If they try to control it by outlawing grows, it won't work. The grow ops will continue.

Still, the government and industry could make a profit off of it. Look at CA. Even with all of the undeclared grow ops happening and the FDA continuing their raids, it is still netting the state hundreds of millions per annum. This is a cash cow just waiting to be milked.
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Wow, your state sux. In SD we can grow our own...there's a limit on the number of plants per year, but yeah I could set up a lil mini green house right now and grow if I wanted to.

Let me see if I can find the rules for ya....
 
Jerry said:
Oh SNAP!! He broke out the anti-gun-control argument on your ass!!
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And I got no thanks for it? I'm hurt.

If you look at the historical reasons for why pot was outlawed, the reasons are just as stupid as the ones you hear from the anti-gun crowd. It's a bunch of hysteria that doesn't add up in the end... but as history shows, it's not about making sense, it's about which group can shout the loudest that gets the laws passed.
 
Orius said:
And I got no thanks for it? I'm hurt.

If you look at the historical reasons for why pot was outlawed, the reasons are just as stupid as the ones you hear from the anti-gun crowd. It's a bunch of hysteria that doesn't add up in the end... but as history shows, it's not about making sense, it's about which group can shout the loudest that gets the laws passed.
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There ya go buddy :2wave:
 
Orius said:
And I got no thanks for it? I'm hurt.

If you look at the historical reasons for why pot was outlawed, the reasons are just as stupid as the ones you hear from the anti-gun crowd. It's a bunch of hysteria that doesn't add up in the end... but as history shows, it's not about making sense, it's about which group can shout the loudest that gets the laws passed.
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There, now you got two for it!
 
Eh ****, I think it may be a city ordinance, wich is likly because the state doesn't ban it.

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nope, not there either....idk, but people grow personal use tobacco around here and the cops allow it.

No one's selling it (;)) so the government doesn't care.
 
Jerry said:
Eh ****, I think it may be a city ordinance, wich is likly because the state doesn't ban it.

South Dakota Codified Laws Text Search

nope, not there either....idk, but people grow personal use tobacco around here and the cops allow it.

No one's selling it (;)) so the government doesn't care.
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So I need to move down south where it will actually grow so I don't have to pay 6 dollars a pack?
 
Redress said:
So I need to move down south where it will actually grow so I don't have to pay 6 dollars a pack?
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One of the very few good things coming out of the Lakota Nation (and believe me, it's a short list) is cheap tobacco products. Yeah, you have to go to the reservation to buy, which is where exercising your right to keep and carry comes in, but you can walk out with a carton for about $15-20.

As a side note, one of the other few quality products the Lakota Nation produces for sale is choice jail bait, but that's another story.
 
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