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    Re: Non-smokers: Your views on marijuana

    I don't smoke it, It puts me immedietly to sleep, and I am too athletic to really want that crap in my lungs anyway.

    But it should be legal. GOvernment is too big and too intrusive as it is.


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    Re: A question for people who don't smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Losing your job is much worse for you than getting into a bar fight.
    Apparently you haven't seen some of the same types of bar fights I have.



    And chemically, alcohol is a far greater danger overall than marijuana. Alcohol is one of a very small group of drugs where withdrawal symptoms can be fatal.

    In moderation, neither one is terrible, but when abuse occurs, alcohol is much, much worse than marijuana.

    It has the most severe withdrawal symptoms of any drug we know of. Heroin, cocaine, and nicotine withdrawal all pale in comparison to alcohol withdrawal. It causes hallucinations, severe pain, tremors, vomitting and sometimes death.

    What you are describing with the MJ use at work is abuse, so we should compare apples to apples.

    And don't smoke marijuana at all. Used to on occasion when I was a teenager, but I didn't really like it all that much.

    But if I were to rank drugs in order of their overall danger, Alcohol makes my top three, but marijuana doesn't even make the top ten.

    But I'm in favor of legalizing and regulating all drugs, including heroin and meth, not just marijuana.
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    Re: A question for people who don't smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Apparently you haven't seen some of the same types of bar fights I have.



    And chemically, alcohol is a far greater danger overall than marijuana. Alcohol is one of a very small group of drugs where withdrawal symptoms can be fatal.

    In moderation, neither one is terrible, but when abuse occurs, alcohol is much, much worse than marijuana.

    It has the most severe withdrawal symptoms of any drug we know of. Heroin, cocaine, and nicotine withdrawal all pale in comparison to alcohol withdrawal. It causes hallucinations, severe pain, tremors, vomitting and sometimes death.

    What you are describing with the MJ use at work is abuse, so we should compare apples to apples.

    And don't smoke marijuana at all. Used to on occasion when I was a teenager, but I didn't really like it all that much.

    But if I were to rank drugs in order of their overall danger, Alcohol makes my top three, but marijuana doesn't even make the top ten.

    But I'm in favor of legalizing and regulating all drugs, including heroin and meth, not just marijuana.
    I was not speaking to chemical/biological dangers at all. You are correct that alcohol has much worse withdrawals(trust me on this), but for whatever reason, to use your terms, abuse of pot seems much more likely among users. I am not sure if that is a social stigma thing(people who would not put up with some one coming to work drunk turn a blind eye to some one high at work), or due to a difference in the way they work on the mind, or what, it just seems from my experience that the incidence of pot abuse is higher among those who use it than alcohol.

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    Re: A question for people who don't smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Yes, because if somebody wants to get high it should be no business of mine. Stoned or sober he's still responsible for what he does.
    if "what he does" impacts others, he has to pay.....but that has never been an effective deterrent yet.

    There is, for the most part, no such thing as totally responsible use of intoxicants. There is almost always some kind of spillover effect..

    MJ is the ONLY currently illegal drug I would vote to legalize, but I would also add more penalites to alcohol abuse at the same time...

    Whatever the intoxicant, if you can't do it at home and do it without costing the taxpayer money, don't do it...
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    Re: A question for people who don't smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    Yes, I think it should be legal, for the reasons already listed here and because my own observation says that stoned people usually don't cause as many problems as drunk people.
    Cops will tell you a stoner is usually mellow, and easy to arrest. A drunk, tho, wants to fight in a lot of cases....
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    Re: A question for people who don't smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I was not speaking to chemical/biological dangers at all. You are correct that alcohol has much worse withdrawals(trust me on this), but for whatever reason, to use your terms, abuse of pot seems much more likely among users. I am not sure if that is a social stigma thing(people who would not put up with some one coming to work drunk turn a blind eye to some one high at work), or due to a difference in the way they work on the mind, or what, it just seems from my experience that the incidence of pot abuse is higher among those who use it than alcohol.
    I don't think they are more likely to be abusers as much as I think the type of people who end up abusing pot are the same types who seem to revel in their abuse.

    Alcoholism is something that many people try to hide. For some reason pot abuse is something stoners wear as a badge of honor.

    I think it's inherent in the people who become abusers more than the drug itself.

    I know many people who are moderate users of marijuana who would never dream of using pot at work.

    I also know people who couldn't make it through a day without a drink.
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    Re: A question for people who don't smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I don't think they are more likely to be abusers as much as I think the type of people who end up abusing pot are the same types who seem to revel in their abuse.

    Alcoholism is something that many people try to hide. For some reason pot abuse is something stoners wear as a badge of honor.

    I think it's inherent in the people who become abusers more than the drug itself.

    I know many people who are moderate users of marijuana who would never dream of using pot at work.

    I also know people who couldn't make it through a day without a drink.
    As for your first, you could well be right. It's hard when judging something from personnel experience, as you just lack data. I am guessing based on what I have seen, so take it for what it's worth.

    The rest I agree with for sure.

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    Re: A question for people who don't smoke

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    As for your first, you could well be right. It's hard when judging something from personnel experience, as you just lack data. I am guessing based on what I have seen, so take it for what it's worth.

    The rest I agree with for sure.
    I'm using a combo of personal experience and personal research on the subject.

    I know too many people from both groups of abusers, and to be honest, the alcohol abusers are harder to spot in general everyday life until they get to a certain point, when the physical manifestations of their addiction become very obvious.
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    Re: A question for people who don't smoke

    I have no concerns about legalizing marijuana, but I would be resistant to legalizing most other drugs.

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    Re: A question for people who don't smoke

    No, I am against it.

    We are already a pill popping, prescription drug taking, recreational drug overkill society.

    We are the wealthiest, yet most chemical dependent nation on the face of the planet.

    We dont need more pill popping, prescription drug taking, recreational drug using sickos running the streets legally.

    If 2nd hand smoke is bad for you, then what is 2nd hand pot smoke gonna be?

    Its to bad adults cant simply be adults and live a life without chemical dependency.

    Legalizing drugs isnt going to solve anything. Ever seen people on drugs? I have seen enough friends fall to pieces on drugs, dont need to have it explained to me how its harmless and better then "X" or "Y".
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