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    Should the government bail out the post office?

    Tens of billions more for GM. What about the post office?

    U.S. Postal Service: RIP
    Posted Jun 15 2009, 06:05 AM by Douglas McIntyre Rating: Filed under: Internet, Amazon
    The U.S. Postal Service, which has been dying for years due to the advent of the fax, e-mail, and overnight delivery, may finally be close to its last act.

    The agency lost nearly $2 billion in its last fiscal year and is faced with the serious consideration of cuts of up to 3,100 offices, potentially eliminating thousand of jobs. Media reports say that first class mail volumes are plunging.

    What is killing and will probably eventually finish off the Post Office? In a word: “broadband,” the high-speed Internet system that the current Administration plans to build out in the next two years.

    According to MarketWatch, the Postal Service is already looking at stopping Saturday delivery. The next moves will probably cut the number of weekdays the mail is dropped off, particularly outside urban areas where the cost of reaching homes and businesses spread over a wide geography is enormous.

    Broadband has taken away the need for sending letters and may large documents. Broadband connections allow users to securely download encrypted files, some of which are the equivalent of thousands of pages of paper. The files can be sent and received in a few seconds compared with days to move them by mail.

    Payment systems which wire transfer money have nearly eliminated the role of the check in paying bills. This will only increase as e-banking does.

    Even the magazine and newspaper industries which relied on physical delivery systems for decades now use the Amazon (AMZN) Kindle as a way to get the printed word over the Internet and downloaded onto the device. Almost every major print product also has an Internet version. Sending magazines via mail is expensive. Cutting back on that form of delivery would be a blessing.

    The modern postal system killed the pony express. The USPS could only last so long before it was itself replaced. That time has finally come.

    Top Stocks blogger Douglas A. McIntyre is an editor at 24/7 Wall St.

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    Re: Should the government bail out the post office?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Tens of billions more for GM. What about the post office?

    U.S. Postal Service: RIP
    Posted Jun 15 2009, 06:05 AM by Douglas McIntyre Rating: Filed under: Internet, Amazon
    The U.S. Postal Service, which has been dying for years due to the advent of the fax, e-mail, and overnight delivery, may finally be close to its last act.

    The agency lost nearly $2 billion in its last fiscal year and is faced with the serious consideration of cuts of up to 3,100 offices, potentially eliminating thousand of jobs. Media reports say that first class mail volumes are plunging.

    What is killing and will probably eventually finish off the Post Office? In a word: “broadband,” the high-speed Internet system that the current Administration plans to build out in the next two years.

    According to MarketWatch, the Postal Service is already looking at stopping Saturday delivery. The next moves will probably cut the number of weekdays the mail is dropped off, particularly outside urban areas where the cost of reaching homes and businesses spread over a wide geography is enormous.

    Broadband has taken away the need for sending letters and may large documents. Broadband connections allow users to securely download encrypted files, some of which are the equivalent of thousands of pages of paper. The files can be sent and received in a few seconds compared with days to move them by mail.

    Payment systems which wire transfer money have nearly eliminated the role of the check in paying bills. This will only increase as e-banking does.

    Even the magazine and newspaper industries which relied on physical delivery systems for decades now use the Amazon (AMZN) Kindle as a way to get the printed word over the Internet and downloaded onto the device. Almost every major print product also has an Internet version. Sending magazines via mail is expensive. Cutting back on that form of delivery would be a blessing.

    The modern postal system killed the pony express. The USPS could only last so long before it was itself replaced. That time has finally come.

    Top Stocks blogger Douglas A. McIntyre is an editor at 24/7 Wall St.
    This article sounds like it was written by someone who's just figuring out how to connect to the intarweb via AOL dial-up.

    Mail volume may decrease, but it's certainly not going to be eliminated like this guy implies. As cool as the kindle is, it's not killing the newspaper or magazine any time soon.

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    In a word: “broadband,” the high-speed Internet system that the current Administration plans to build out in the next two years.
    wtf is this guy talking about?
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    Re: Should the government bail out the post office?

    No the post office should not be bailed out.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post


    What is killing and will probably eventually finish off the Post Office? In a word: “broadband,” the high-speed Internet system that the current Administration plans to build out in the next two years.

    Broadband has taken away the need for sending letters and may large documents. Broadband connections allow users to securely download encrypted files, some of which are the equivalent of thousands of pages of paper. The files can be sent and received in a few seconds compared with days to move them by mail.
    This person thinks the 'evil Obama administration will use the internet to destroy the world.'


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    Re: Should the government bail out the post office?

    The post office long ago outlived its usefulness. UPS, DHL, and FedEx can do everything it does better.
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    Re: Should the government bail out the post office?

    Two wrongs don't make a right. The government should privatize the post office, or at least take the intermediate step of allowing private entities to compete with it without initiating aggression against them!

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    Re: Should the government bail out the post office?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The post office long ago outlived its usefulness. UPS, DHL, and FedEx can do everything it does better.
    I'm not so sure about that last part. UPS, DHL, and FedEx aren't exactly the best options for low weight, high volume, low priority mail. When you need to get something heavy, somewhere quickly, you go with one of those three (well, I don't like DHL, bad experiences with them compared to the other two). When you need to mail a letter slow, cheaply and in high volume, those aren't the first options.
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    Re: Should the government bail out the post office?

    The post office is like any other company. If it is experiencing cuts, then it needs to reduce its supply. I doubt the WHOLE company would collapse because of harsh times that all industries are facing.

    Also, even though I support the US postal service, I would be fine if another company moves in to compete against it. Unlike when this country was created, the postal service no longer needs to be run by the government.

    So help isn't needed from the government for the postal service.
    Last edited by nerv14; 06-15-09 at 11:03 PM.

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    Re: Should the government bail out the post office?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I'm not so sure about that last part. UPS, DHL, and FedEx aren't exactly the best options for low weight, high volume, low priority mail. When you need to get something heavy, somewhere quickly, you go with one of those three (well, I don't like DHL, bad experiences with them compared to the other two). When you need to mail a letter slow, cheaply and in high volume, those aren't the first options.
    Agreed.

    $.42 to send a physical piece of paper 3000 miles to someone elses door in 2 days time is a mind-boggling bargain.
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    Re: Should the government bail out the post office?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Agreed.

    $.42 to send a physical piece of paper 3000 miles to someone elses door in 2 days time is a mind-boggling bargain.
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    Really.

    Where else can you send low volume, heavy, yet exceedingly slow for dirt cheap?
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    Re: Should the government bail out the post office?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Agreed.

    $.42 to send a physical piece of paper 3000 miles to someone elses door in 2 days time is a mind-boggling bargain.
    What is the cost per letter when you add the government funding to the 42-cent user fee? I doubt it will look like such a bargain.
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